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democrattotheend

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Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:21 PM Jan 2013

How would lowering the Medicare age save the system money? [View all]

As some of you know, I am working on a paper arguing against raising the Medicare age for my health policy grad school course. I am trying to decide which alternative solutions to propose, and one that I have seen here and on Kos is to lower the eligibility age to 55 or 60 (proposals to lower it to 0 are outside the scope of my paper, even though philosophically I agree). For those who advocate this, I would appreciate if you could help me understand what you are proposing and how you think it would keep Medicare solvent for longer.

Obviously, lowering the age without either a buy-in or an across-the-board hike in the payroll tax rate would not only not save money, but would worsen Medicare's solvency problem by increasing the number of beneficiaries without increasing the funds to pay for them. So I assume that is not what is being proposed.

I have looked into buy-in, but the problem is, the unsubsidized premium would be over $600 per month, which is less than what my self-employed parents currently pay for health insurance but still too steep for many of the people who would need it. And if you subsidize it, then it costs money rather than saving money (although the subsidies could potentially come from the amount that has been budgeted for subsidies on the exchange). But either way, it costs the govt. more money if the premiums are subsidized. Even if the Medicare buy-in is completely unsubsidized, I still don't see how it would save the Medicare trust fund money unless the premiums were higher than the estimated cost of providing benefits, which would mean making them even higher than $600 per month.

There's also the problem of adverse selection: if the bronze plans on the exchange have lower premiums (and fewer benefits or higher copays), the healthiest people ages 55-64 would be likely to choose a less expensive plan on the exchange, and those in need of more care would be the ones who buy into Medicare. So allowing Medicare buy-in at age 55 would not necessarily make the overall Medicare risk pool healthier, particularly when you consider the fact that some of the people that age who lack employer-sponsored coverage had to retire early because of health problems.

I am not saying that lowering the Medicare age is not good policy (I would lower it to 0 if I were in charge), but as a way to save the Medicare trust fund money I just don't see it.

Am I missing something?

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People would be buying part B coverage upaloopa Jan 2013 #1
The current premiums for Part B are heavily subsidized democrattotheend Jan 2013 #4
Some people put off addressing medical problems Downwinder Jan 2013 #2
Any idea where I could get some numbers on that? democrattotheend Jan 2013 #24
I can only speak anecdotally. I don't know if there are Downwinder Jan 2013 #25
I have never researched this, but I have a couple of ideas JDPriestly Jan 2013 #32
I think you would have to do a reshuffle of the entire payment system Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #3
It makes sense when you look beyond the Medicare trust fund Warpy Jan 2013 #5
Please don't call me a Republican democrattotheend Jan 2013 #7
Easy. You assure solvency by having a full price buy in Warpy Jan 2013 #12
A larger, healthier pool would seem to lower the cost per participant TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #14
You just gave me a good idea democrattotheend Jan 2013 #23
Sure, it just has to be passed. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #35
Well, how do other rich nations do it by having universal health care? CTyankee Jan 2013 #26
Of course I know that democrattotheend Jan 2013 #30
But you do understand you face a problem by segmenting this one demographic in the overall CTyankee Jan 2013 #31
One thing you might want to look at is the number of people in their 50s who have to rely on JDPriestly Jan 2013 #33
To bring Medicare up to the level of Medicaid requires (roughly): Downwinder Jan 2013 #34
Open Medicare to everyone regardless of age... Pilotguy Jan 2013 #6
In theory, I might agree democrattotheend Jan 2013 #9
The charge in Germany is over 14% of pay. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #19
It would cost way more than that. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #20
Hold on. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #8
That figure is for 55-64 year olds democrattotheend Jan 2013 #13
65 + is $800; the $600 is an actuarial cocktail napkin sketch Recursion Jan 2013 #37
I believe you, but it's important for me to understand the basis. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #40
I would have jumped on $600/mo.... Faryn Balyncd Jan 2013 #10
That is great information, thank you democrattotheend Jan 2013 #15
Yes, the exchanges would offer some better options.... Faryn Balyncd Jan 2013 #17
The argument about Medicare's administrative costs is kind of misleading democrattotheend Jan 2013 #22
-_- JaneyVee Jan 2013 #11
Are you talking about lowering the age with buy-in? democrattotheend Jan 2013 #16
I don't think so Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #18
I wish I weren't democrattotheend Jan 2013 #21
Have you found anywhere a table that breaks down Medicare expenditure by age of the insuree ? n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #27
No, but that's a good idea democrattotheend Jan 2013 #29
I am no expert on Medicare but it seems to me that you are making a case for Medicare for all CTyankee Jan 2013 #28
In theory I would probably support Medicare for all democrattotheend Jan 2013 #36
Yes, I can see that from what you've written. I was just commenting on the problems inherent CTyankee Jan 2013 #38
In case you missed it. PETRUS Jan 2013 #39
I did miss it democrattotheend Jan 2013 #41
No apology necessary. Hope it's helpful! PETRUS Jan 2013 #42
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