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beevul

(12,194 posts)
20. Yes, I did.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:57 PM
Feb 2013

"It's just simple plain, common sense. No need to "speak their language", or get into the technical intracasies and terminology of the various types of guns."

And hence, this has happened before. Behold the source of the power of the nra. Sentiments like that made them what they are today. Sentiments like that have grown their ranks somewhere between 500k and a million since sandy hook, and sold more guns of the type you refer to and ammunition for them, than the best advertising that gun manufacturers could come up with.

"This is not a hostage negotiation. We shouldn't have to negotiate and coax our way with owners of weapons that have no practical purpose in the every day world. We are not the ones doing the damage here.

When you're talking about private property of individuals, of course you're going to have to play nice. The contrary is brute force, and look how much guns and ammunition playing it that way has sold. You're going to have to talk to them, like real people, because they are real people, if you ever want to get anywhere. I believe the president expressed similar sentiments recently.

And for the record, the great majority of the people that own the type of rifles that we're discussing...They aren't the ones doing the damage either.


"If all one owns is a bolt action shotgun for hunting or a handgun with a 10 round capacity for protection purposes, they aren't having those weapons taken away, nor are they prohibited from buying another."

The thing is, the only chance you have of getting to that point, is with the approval of the people you now seem content to snub. Not only do they vote too, but they are among the most energized bloc of voters in existence, if not the most energized.

"I understand that this is all complicated by the political aspect. I also, quite reluctantly, am very bearish about the chances that this meaningful reform will pass, given the stranglehold on our politicians that the gun lobby possesses."

I tend to agree, though I forsee it being worse than just about anyone here on DU is willing to believe, come election time. I could be wrong, but I doubt very much that I am.


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Of Children and of Guns. [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 OP
I'll give you a kick aikoaiko Feb 2013 #1
I hear what you are saying, but consider.... Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #3
Why should you miss them? Crepuscular Feb 2013 #5
Except you'd probably actively use your Porshe every day. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #7
It depends Crepuscular Feb 2013 #12
I have to run to a 4 hour meeting, but I will get back to you. aikoaiko Feb 2013 #6
I don't think you should have to miss them, but.... aikoaiko Feb 2013 #28
Frankly Guns are terrible writers in general el_bryanto Feb 2013 #2
Sorry, whoosh....nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #4
kickinf times 1000. Whovian Feb 2013 #8
Thanks. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #26
Here is a Sandy Hook father who is still against gun-control. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #9
"the problem is not gun laws, the problem is a lack of civility" the father says marions ghost Feb 2013 #10
His views are just as valid as the anti-gun parents. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #23
For starters, you're going to have to learn how to talk to the people you're trying to reach. beevul Feb 2013 #11
Oh, please. Matthew 7:3, beevul. Robb Feb 2013 #13
I wasn't belittling anyone, robb. beevul Feb 2013 #16
nicely written, thanks Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #14
You said: Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #17
Yes, I did. beevul Feb 2013 #20
I enjoyed your OP. I think it brought some interesting points to the conversation. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #27
"Heads Would Explode"? Paladin Feb 2013 #19
Do you need help with reading comprension paladin? beevul Feb 2013 #21
There is no firearm mild enough to fire at a child without horrific consequences. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #24
Kick Recursion Feb 2013 #15
Good luck, Sir. PLARS1999 Feb 2013 #18
Well thought out , well written. Zax2me Feb 2013 #22
Thanks. nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #25
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