"Like if you put a speed limit on highway-pretty soon they're going to take your car away from you"

[freshwest]

19. Oh, the anti-Founding Fathers thing comes from them being anti-colonialists.

You know, like Obama's daddy was an anti-colonialist. That meme was kicked around for a while.

It appears you have crossed paths with a rare specimen of RW wackjobbery. Get your vomit bag ready for a sanitized tour of this cult's belief system :

They say the Founding Fathers practiced Satanism and the founding of the USA was a royalist plot. We were never free from England, or if so, they say the USA ceased to exist after the Civil War. It's now incorporated, not a country! Check that fringe on the flag. We are undone!

They'll tell you about a secret meeting on Jekyll Island by the nefarious millionaires, or banksters who created the IRS and Federal Reserve. They were in league with a gang who sank the Titanic to kill an American milllionaire who sought to foil their plot.

All of the banksters come from an ancient line in Europe that got rich from having insider information to make a killing on the London stock exchange with a false report on the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo. And now all of your hard earned income tax money goes to the Queen of England!

That's a small sample of that world view they believe in. Toss in a few historical references and they are soooo smart and everyone else is soooo dumb!

The HAM antenna is because they must have alternative means of communication with other patriots, when they are on the run from the evil Obama. They've got a whole 'nother world they live in.

Makes me feel like I'm at a party gone terribly, horribly wrong.