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In reply to the discussion: Wow... It Gets WAAAY Worse... 'Whom Can The President Kill ?' - TheNewYorker (We Are Now Nixon) [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)47. No. RFK ordered CIA to stop dealing with the MAFIA
I'm not trying to argue with you OldDem2012. I'm trying to correct misunderstandings that have arisen and been perpetuated due to CIA's long history of deceit when it comes to the assassination of President Kennedy.
The record shows, while RFK encouraged certain Cuban exiles, none were authorized or "sanctioned" to assassinate Castro.
From DUer Deb Conway and her online resource, JFK Lancer:
***May 7, '62 - RFK briefed on past CIA-Mafia Plots: RFK meets with Richard Helms (Helms later denied this meeting took place despite a specific indication on RFK's calendar), and later that afternoon with Sheffield Edwards and CIA general council Lawrence Houston for a briefing on pre-Bay of Pigs organized crime assassination plots. (Testimony of Lawrence Houston HSCA, p62 National Archives) "Mr. Kennedy stated that upon learning CIA had not cleared its action in hiring Maheu and Giancana with the DOJ he issued orders that the CIA should never again take such steps with first checking with the DOJ."; CIA does not tell RFK the organized crime plots will continue. (Memo for IG from Sidney D. Stembridge Acting Director of Security 3.16.76, quoting FBI memo FBI 62-109060-4984 - states May 9,'62 as the date for this briefing.) Houston testified that RFK insisted "There was not to be any contact of the Mafia...without prior consultation with him." (Church Committee, Houston, 6/2/75 p37)
CONTINUED...
http://www.jfklancer.com/cuba/index.html
As they did with RFK, the CIA did not inform the Warren Commission of any of this important information:
Why did the CIA not give information on the Castro assassination attempts to the Warren Commission? In 1975, in his Church Committee testimony, Richard Helms was asked if he was charged with furnishing the Warren Commission information from the CIA, information that he thought was relevant?
Helms: No sir, I was instructed to reply to inquiries from the Warren Commission for information from the Agency. I was not asked to initiate any particular thing.
Senator Morgan: In other words if you weren't asked for it, you didn't give it.
Helms: That's right, sir.
(Helms testimony, 7/17/75)
ALL the DETAILS: http://www.jfklancer.com/cuba/castroplots.html
CIA continued in a similar way to obstruct justice in the Kennedy assassination investigation. CIA never revealed to HSCA members and staff that its liaison to the HSCA, George Joannides, was a direct participant in events in New Orleans that involved Lee Harvey Oswald.
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WillyT
Feb 2013
OP
Beg to differ, alas! One of my best summers was spent watching the Watergate Hearings! Oh, and
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Exactly my point. Thanks for seeing it. Can't just blame the President for this policy. nt.
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