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In reply to the discussion: Wow... It Gets WAAAY Worse... 'Whom Can The President Kill ?' - TheNewYorker (We Are Now Nixon) [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Both entered the white house because of doing illegal things to get in, Reagan with the hostage interference, Nixon beating an inferior candidate, thought a great guy, nice guy, and liberal (but not as liberal as LBJ was btw).
HHH ran with all the baggage of LBJ, but not on any of the positives.
So, was it worth it in retrospect?
And the war didn't end for years later.
Looking back it is clearer, we can't go back, no sense in whining either way, but make sure we don't fracture and at the worse, hold ones nose and push that vote for the democratic presidential candidate, no matter who it is.
The worst democratic candidate is indeed better than the best republican presidential candidate.
And dividing on one issue(the war in 1968) and letting that trump all the other issues, well again, is it worth it, when the other side won't stop the war(s) and the other side won't do the good stuff.
Protests are great, but electing a better congress is a more worthy time in 2013. This is not 1968.
Did voting in Nixon and Reagan over say LBJ and Carter really better America?
Look at the comments every major REALISTIC thought about politician on the democratic side-Elizabeth Warren said everything should be on the table re:Iran.
Reagan should never have had a democratic voter. But the fracture between Carter and Kennedy, and then the 3rd party run of John Anderson...what good did that do?
I love Teddy, but 1980 was the one wrong time for him to run.
(Should have run in 1972,1976 or 1984 instead.)
I wouldn't have said these things back then either.
But in retrospect, sad to say, it is all true. imho of course.
BTW-the protesters of the 60s, so many of them ended up running for office that were not underground. And some won, some lost.
And those like Mark Rudd, on his website the last few years, has backed President Obama and other 60s protesters have backed the President.
Nobody gets 100%.
So the correct question is-
would the other side do the same bad stuff?
then ask
would the other side do any of the good stuff?
IMHO the first question is YES, the second one is NO.
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