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zappaman

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259. Sure thing, my friend.

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:35 PM

Mar 2013

Let's look at his testimony at the OJ trial.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/groden1.htm

Here are some highlights for you...

Q. Mr. Groden, you've had no formal training whatsoever in learning how to determine the authenticity of photographs, correct?
A. That's correct.

Q. Never taught a course in photography?
A. Never.

Q. Never published anything about photography?
A. Techniques of photography?

Q. Yeah.
A. No.

Q. Or techniques of photographic alteration?
A. No.

Q. Not a book, not an article, not anything?
A. I mention the technique of photo alteration in a book I wrote.

Q. The book's not about photo alteration?
A. No.

Q. You talk about the Oswald backyard photograph?
A. Yes.

Q. And you don't belong to any professional organizations?
A. No.

Q. And you're not certified by any professional organizations?
A. No.

Q. And you never testified in court or qualified in court as an expert on photography, correct?
A. No.

Q. Is that correct?
A. Yes.

My favorite...

Q. Do you know the names of any professional organizations that deal with questioned photographs?
A. No.

More:
After testifying that a picture of OJ wearing Bruno Magalini's was likely a fake, Groden gets his ass handed to him.

Q. Sir, if there were other photographs of Mr. Simpson taken on the same day, September 26, 1993, in the same stadium, same football game, different camera, different photographer, and Mr. Simpson has the same clothes on, same jacket, same tie, same shirt, same belt, same pants, same shoes, wouldn't that compel you to conclude that your testimony that these shoes have been put on is wrong?
A. No.

Q. It wouldn't?
A. It would not change what I found in the photograph.

Groden is then handed 29 other photos, one after the other. Of course, they all show the exact same outfit and shoes.
Groden never backs down even though it is clear he is wrong.

Plenty to read there, so take your time. Although it is sad to read how he just gets skewered.

Again, Robert Groden is not an expert in photography. He is a fraud.

Do you think he is an expert just because he says so, Octafish?

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Yes, I can. Octafish Feb 2013 #113

Sure. You can. - lynne Feb 2013 #118

+100 n/t zappaman Feb 2013 #120

I don't care if even one person didn't agree with me, lynne. I'll continue to post on JFK, RFK, MLK. Octafish Feb 2013 #199

Thank you. Your posts are important and significant to many thinking people. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #201

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the whitney houston files!!! news you can use!!! HiPointDem Mar 2013 #290

Posting the whole importent story for ya ... :) ... doublethink Mar 2013 #291

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Thank you for all that you do Octafish... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #207

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Morley v CIA gets heard this week. Octafish Feb 2013 #114

Sorry, but, no Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #32

The news CIA hired the Mob to assassinate Castro made big headlines in 1975. Octafish Feb 2013 #115

I think it's pretty simple: William Seger Feb 2013 #35

+1 zappaman Feb 2013 #41

Thank you. n/t nyquil_man Feb 2013 #52

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You mean the "facts" presented in the Warren Commission? Seriously?? nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #85

Yet the 'mass media' couldn't keep Oliver Stone from making his film. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #54

Some folks are deeply invested in their belief of a conspiracy. zappaman Feb 2013 #55

I guess I don't get it. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #62

They did try their damndest to shut him and the film down, though. Octafish Feb 2013 #121

That article says nothing about anyone trying to shut Stone down. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #123

The entire article is about the hostile media reaction to Stone. Octafish Feb 2013 #125

Once again, all you're showing is that people criticized Stone. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #128

Where are all the articles in mass media in support of Oliver Stone? Octafish Feb 2013 #129

'They did try their damndest to shut him and the film down, though." zappaman Feb 2013 #132

Stone had support to the tune of $40 million. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #133

Time Warner knew the film would make a ton of money.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #142

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In other words, the fact that the film is full of bullshit William Seger Feb 2013 #169

The fact that it was that film that began to cause many people to begin doubting sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #172

That's exactly what I said: Bullshit is just fine with you William Seger Feb 2013 #190

Yes, conspirators are annoying. They let others tell them stories about what happened in sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #210

Oh, bullshit. I don't know anyone whose world view depends on William Seger Feb 2013 #211

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JFK made $205 million at the box office. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #202

The M$M has always been a corporate profit maker first Rex Feb 2013 #56

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Yeah I am pretty much starting from the day CNN went for profit. Rex Feb 2013 #61

Codswallop. It is not news. cali Feb 2013 #63

Horse syrup! It IS news! johnnyreb Feb 2013 #66

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Shhhhh! zappaman Feb 2013 #80

Evidence and science? These guys reject geometry (n/t) William Seger Feb 2013 #117

Bertrand Russell rejected geometry? Octafish Feb 2013 #137

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Nothing to laugh at, William Seger. Ford was FBI stooge who obstructed justice. Octafish Mar 2013 #243

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Call it what you want. Ford and the FBI obstructed Justice. Octafish Mar 2013 #256

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This "confession"? William Seger Feb 2013 #116

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That's the best you could do? Really??? William Seger Feb 2013 #148

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x2 AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #151

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It's really very obvious that Right Wingers will attack anyone who dares to sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #94

so your logic is .. zappaman Feb 2013 #98

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That's pretty much the size of it. Spot-on post. n/t. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #131

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And, BTW... William Seger Feb 2013 #166

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A patriot AND a nice guy! zappaman Mar 2013 #250

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Some expert! zappaman Mar 2013 #253

Prove he's a fraud, zappaman. Octafish Mar 2013 #255

Sure thing, my friend. zappaman Mar 2013 #259

No. Groden is considered an expert because the HSCA said so. Octafish Mar 2013 #260

No they didn't. zappaman Mar 2013 #263

He testified for 82-pages in the HSCA record. Octafish Mar 2013 #265

So? zappaman Mar 2013 #266

They wouldn't call for testimony from an idiot. Octafish Mar 2013 #267

So, you're accusing Mr. Groden of perjury? zappaman Mar 2013 #268

Groden told the truth to the HSCA. What you post is from the OJ trial. That's disingenuous. Octafish Mar 2013 #269

Too funny! zappaman Mar 2013 #270

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Changing the subject? zappaman Mar 2013 #272

Not at all. Bolden has been ignored by the news media. Octafish Mar 2013 #273

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Thank you, Abraham Bolden! Thank you, Don Adams! Octafish Mar 2013 #262

"First they ignore you ... doublethink Mar 2013 #274

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I bought a Smith and Wesson .38 revolver recently. HomeboyHombre Mar 2013 #240

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The language of marginalization. Octafish Mar 2013 #249

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Anytime, upi402! It was historic! Octafish Mar 2013 #264

Castro - alive. Our Republic - dead upi402 Mar 2013 #276

Found a 2nd story on this from our heads up media. doublethink Mar 2013 #277

Now this is interesting ... doublethink Mar 2013 #278

"two nobodies" and "small and twisted minds" johnnyreb Mar 2013 #283

I hope Solidad O'Bien's new position with CNN ... doublethink Mar 2013 #305

Yes, the story has no legs. Octafish Mar 2013 #281

kick upi402 Mar 2013 #280

Jim Garrison on Fascism Octafish Mar 2013 #282

This is a head-scratcher upi402 Mar 2013 #296

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Thank for posting the entire conference Octafish. doublethink Mar 2013 #306

The M$M shows it's own bias toward protecting the government Rex Mar 2013 #295

Lt. Cmdr. Terri Pike Octafish Mar 2013 #298

Yes some of that stuff makes the hair on my neck Rex Mar 2013 #299

Oops. JackRiddler Mar 2013 #297

Assassins of the Truth Octafish Mar 2013 #300

Thank you, my friend! JackRiddler Mar 2013 #326

How long will this conspiracy theory be dragging out? brooklynite Mar 2013 #307

What theory? RFK's kids expressed their father's thoughts that the assassins are at large. Octafish Mar 2013 #312

It's cool how you got one of your conspiracy threads in GD snooper2 Mar 2013 #308

Long-ago wiretap inspires a battle with the CIA for more information Octafish Mar 2013 #311

Will the RFK Jr. interview with Charlie Rose ever air? MinM Mar 2013 #310

THAT is the Question. Octafish Mar 2013 #315

More Reflections on the JFK Assassination (3/7/2013) doublethink Mar 2013 #313

A man of integrity, ignored by the nation's mass media... Octafish Mar 2013 #317

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Apart from the initial splash, this story is nowhere. Octafish Mar 2013 #322

Thank you for shedding light on this subject Octafish. Jetboy Mar 2013 #314

CIA still pushing the ''Castro Knew Ahead of Time'' Lie Octafish Mar 2013 #318