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In reply to the discussion: New Pope Elected: Centuries Of Make-Believe (Religion) Reaffirmed For The Masses [View all]OwnedByCats
(805 posts)I just don't see how they can be very successful long term, at least not everywhere, with everything. I mean I am not part of those religions and I'm not denied birth control, if I was gay - I live in NY, so I could get married (not in said churches but who would want to if they are bigoted anyway?), and if they are throwing money to keep gay marriage illegal, well that ought to be illegal in itself, if it isn't already. No group should be allowed to pay money to keep legislation from getting passed. Of course they would like to impose their will, which is something I said they were guilty of earlier on. Some religious institutions do shove their beliefs down other's throats and I don't agree with that any more than I agree with Atheists making fun of religious people (and I mean private individuals who do not impose their will on others, such as myself). I think if anyone is finding their religion to be heavy handed about their rights, they probably should be looking elsewhere unless they actually believe in those things, which seems odd that anyone, most especially women, would believe in all that.
What California needs to do is pass the legislation and not have a vote, which could be influenced either by cheating or people who vote no on gay marriage, thus not getting anywhere. That's how New York did it. We didn't vote on that. On something like this, do we really need to vote? After all, gay people getting married does not affect heterosexual couples at all, IMO. Little by little, I think all States will allow for it- some may take longer than others. I don't know, but in the last year we've had at least 3 states that I can think of off the top of my head.
For the record, I am not Catholic, Mormon, evangelical etc, heck I don't even attend church. I do identify with the Episcopal church when it comes down to it, which like someone earlier said about the Lutherans, is Catholic without the hatred for women, pedophilia and inequality for gays. Of course, I never did understand how they could be against gays - but some priests seem to think it's ok to molest little boys? Huh? lol
Anyway I get your point. Totally understand the ruffled feathers in the light in which we're speaking of.
And thank you, my DU name is awfully true for me - although at the moment I only have one cat. I lost my other in December to cancer. It seems impossible to actually own a cat as they own you!
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