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In reply to the discussion: President Obama has done more to help the poor and middle class than any President since LBJ [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)37. Actually,
"However, there's much to be desired in what Obama has done - Medicare for all would literally require 3 sentences to implement, instead of the massive complexities of Obamacare, which will eventually break down and get us Medicare for all through the exchange back door. "
...you're arguing an ideal. If the Obama had become the President to implement single payer immediately, he would be considered one of the greatest Presidents ever. If his policy leads to single payer, as it could:
Vermont also intends to be the first state in the U.S. with a single-payer health-care system, in which the government pays all of its residents medical bills and insurance companies are unnecessary. The state legislature passed a law in 2011 to steer the state toward adopting such a system in 2017, the soonest possible under the federal health-care law.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-01/vermont-s-first-look-at-insurance-exchange-rates-shows-savings.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-01/vermont-s-first-look-at-insurance-exchange-rates-shows-savings.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022602134
...then that will become part of his legacy.
"Plus, virtually all of Obama's economic proposals have small bonuses for the poor, and large bonuses for the rich. People such as yourself argue that such a split is necessary to get through Congress, but that doesn't make the split good."
I completely disagree (see the OP)
President Obama's Tax Proposals in his Fiscal 2014 Budget Plan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022659823
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President Obama has done more to help the poor and middle class than any President since LBJ [View all]
ProSense
Apr 2013
OP
For some reason the Rec button isn't working. But K & R. Great data, as always.
freshwest
Apr 2013
#170
But he helped the rich even more - Income gap between rich, middle class, and poor widens
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2013
#9
That was the trajectory of wealth inequality way before Obama ever took his first oath.
phleshdef
Apr 2013
#16
Yup. I often post the body of a piece and then edit the links in immediately afterward
woo me with science
Apr 2013
#133
Well said, Whisp. The fact that we have endured this idiotic panicking bullshit on the same topic
Number23
Apr 2013
#76
And as the president's zombie horde of mindless detractors constantly remind us
Number23
Apr 2013
#119
Could be, but all that water swirling around is the sound of the toilet flushing it all away
Jersey Devil
Apr 2013
#41
LOL, Ok, here comes the PR to try to make the SS complaints go away. Have you made ONE POST....
Logical
Apr 2013
#57
I respond to lots of posts. Don't give yourself so much credit. I am shocked.....
Logical
Apr 2013
#59
Sometimes your posts make no sense. Like this one. But your laughing icon is really clever. n-t
Logical
Apr 2013
#67
Look on the bright side. I am kicking your posts so you don't have to! Win Win for you. n-t
Logical
Apr 2013
#70
Because blind support of all policy is as bad a complaining about everything Obama does. n-t
Logical
Apr 2013
#184
He wants the poor to die slowly (opposite of what Grayson said about R's)
IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ
Apr 2013
#64
My goodness the meme's just keep on coming tonight. The dust hasn't settled on this yet..
kickysnana
Apr 2013
#77
The screamers on DU don't pay attention to facts which don't support their narrow view of
bluestate10
Apr 2013
#78
I don't think so, and I'm probably one of the biggest believers in socialism here.
freshwest
Apr 2013
#174
Again, you don't think the Republicans had nothing to do with the poverty rate, debt, war
DainBramaged
Apr 2013
#99
Bullshit! And I don't need pretty charts and links, just ask the local homeless shelters, foodbanks
Purveyor
Apr 2013
#110
Oh I can't wait for the charts and graphs from Daily Kos to refute your claims, with maybe a NYT
Purveyor
Apr 2013
#126
You once told me that, if Obama tried to cut SS, you'd no longer support him. /nt
Marr
Apr 2013
#168
I've already marched outside with Occupy. We are still correct regarding the banksters behind
Fire Walk With Me
Apr 2013
#205
Perpetuating the Privatization our Healthcare is not helping the Poor or Middleclass
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Apr 2013
#186
No. That's different. This involves millions of INNOCENT people who lost their homes to BANKSTERS.
Octafish
Apr 2013
#211
Cancer clinics are turning away thousands of Medicare patients. Blame the sequester.
Fire Walk With Me
Apr 2013
#208