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In reply to the discussion: Is This Barack Obama's 2nd Term? Is it Bill Clinton's 3rd? Or Is It Ronald Reagan's 9th? [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)6. You know,
not every anti-Obama/Democratic Party drivel posted on the Internets need to be dragged into this forum. This commentary is a mess of hate and sillines. Obama is more evil than Reagan because the author says so.
Reagan's invasion of Grenada, along with his bloody contra wars in Central America and southern Africa signaled the renewal of on and off the books of US military interventions when and wherever the logic of empire suggested, and regardless of namby-pamby concerns of human rights, domestic or international law. But if being a Republican means you can be a naked imperialist at home as well as abroad, being a Democrat like Barack Obama means making sufficiently ambiguous noises war and empire to enable corporate media and your own campaign to manufacture a false narrative of actual and substantive difference between Democrats and Republicans.
The first president Bush invaded Panama, and landed US troops in Somalia, a supposed humanitarian intervention. Bill Clinton massively increased the shipment of US military hardware and training to more than 50 of Africa's 54 nations, fueling the conflict in Congo which has taken 7 million lives to date. That's continuity of purpose and of policy.
In Barack Obama's case all he had to say was that he wasn't necessarily against wars, just against what he called stupid wars. Corporate media and liberal shills morphed that lone statement into a false narrative that Barack Obama opposed the war in Iraq, making him an instantly viable presidential candidate at a time when the American people overwhelmingly opposed that war. Once in office, Barack Obama strove mightily to abrogate the Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq which would have allowed US forces to remain there indefinitely. But when the Iraqi puppet government, faced with a near revolt on the part of what remained of Iraqi civil society, dared not do his bidding, insisting that uniformed US troops (but not the American and multinational mercenaries we pay to remain there) stick to the withdrawal timetable agreed upon under Bush, liberal shills and corporate media hailed the withdrawal from Iraq as Obama's victory.
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If either George Bush, or if Ronald Reagan had openly deployed US troops to Africa on anything like the scale President Obama has, black America would be up in arms. They wanted to. They couldn't. It seems that now, by giving us a black president, the empire can get just about whatever it wants.
It works the same way at home. Ronald Reagan and the first George Bush would have liked to tamper with social security, but dared not.
The first president Bush invaded Panama, and landed US troops in Somalia, a supposed humanitarian intervention. Bill Clinton massively increased the shipment of US military hardware and training to more than 50 of Africa's 54 nations, fueling the conflict in Congo which has taken 7 million lives to date. That's continuity of purpose and of policy.
In Barack Obama's case all he had to say was that he wasn't necessarily against wars, just against what he called stupid wars. Corporate media and liberal shills morphed that lone statement into a false narrative that Barack Obama opposed the war in Iraq, making him an instantly viable presidential candidate at a time when the American people overwhelmingly opposed that war. Once in office, Barack Obama strove mightily to abrogate the Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq which would have allowed US forces to remain there indefinitely. But when the Iraqi puppet government, faced with a near revolt on the part of what remained of Iraqi civil society, dared not do his bidding, insisting that uniformed US troops (but not the American and multinational mercenaries we pay to remain there) stick to the withdrawal timetable agreed upon under Bush, liberal shills and corporate media hailed the withdrawal from Iraq as Obama's victory.
<...>
If either George Bush, or if Ronald Reagan had openly deployed US troops to Africa on anything like the scale President Obama has, black America would be up in arms. They wanted to. They couldn't. It seems that now, by giving us a black president, the empire can get just about whatever it wants.
It works the same way at home. Ronald Reagan and the first George Bush would have liked to tamper with social security, but dared not.
Obama talks, ended the Iraq war and something about Africa so he's more evil than Grenada invading, bloody contra wars Reagan, and something completely nonsensical about Social Security.
The Story of COLAs (and amendments to Social Security)
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10022632157
Yeah, Obama is the evil incarnation of Reagan.
West Wing Week: "Dispatches from Sudan"
Posted by Arun Chaudhary
Today the official preliminary results from the historic referendum in Sudan were released. The people of Southern Sudan appear to have voted overwhelmingly in support of independence: total turnout was about 97 percent with almost 99 percent of voters casting their ballots to create the worlds newest nation. West Wing Week was on the ground in Sudan during the week-long referendum, traveling to all parts of the country with the Presidents Special Envoy, General Scott Gration. We went behind the scenes at polling stations from Juba to Khartoum, met some of the international community who helped to ensure the vote was fair and peaceful, and traveled to Darfur to inspect conditions and learn about the commitment of the United States to peace in this region after decades of civil war.
<video>
See a few links below on the President's engagement on the issue:
October 19, 2009:
A Comprehensive Strategy for Sudan
November 12, 2009:
A Public Dialogue on Darfur
September 24, 2010:
President Obama in Ministerial Meeting on Sudan: "The Fate of Millions"
January 6, 2011:
Expectations and Implications: A Discussion on the Southern Sudan Referendum"
West Wing Week: "Dispatches from Sudan"
Posted by Arun Chaudhary
Today the official preliminary results from the historic referendum in Sudan were released. The people of Southern Sudan appear to have voted overwhelmingly in support of independence: total turnout was about 97 percent with almost 99 percent of voters casting their ballots to create the worlds newest nation. West Wing Week was on the ground in Sudan during the week-long referendum, traveling to all parts of the country with the Presidents Special Envoy, General Scott Gration. We went behind the scenes at polling stations from Juba to Khartoum, met some of the international community who helped to ensure the vote was fair and peaceful, and traveled to Darfur to inspect conditions and learn about the commitment of the United States to peace in this region after decades of civil war.
<video>
See a few links below on the President's engagement on the issue:
October 19, 2009:
A Comprehensive Strategy for Sudan
November 12, 2009:
A Public Dialogue on Darfur
September 24, 2010:
President Obama in Ministerial Meeting on Sudan: "The Fate of Millions"
January 6, 2011:
Expectations and Implications: A Discussion on the Southern Sudan Referendum"
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/02/02/west-wing-week-dispatches-sudan
Posted by Arun Chaudhary
Today the official preliminary results from the historic referendum in Sudan were released. The people of Southern Sudan appear to have voted overwhelmingly in support of independence: total turnout was about 97 percent with almost 99 percent of voters casting their ballots to create the worlds newest nation. West Wing Week was on the ground in Sudan during the week-long referendum, traveling to all parts of the country with the Presidents Special Envoy, General Scott Gration. We went behind the scenes at polling stations from Juba to Khartoum, met some of the international community who helped to ensure the vote was fair and peaceful, and traveled to Darfur to inspect conditions and learn about the commitment of the United States to peace in this region after decades of civil war.
<video>
See a few links below on the President's engagement on the issue:
October 19, 2009:
A Comprehensive Strategy for Sudan
November 12, 2009:
A Public Dialogue on Darfur
September 24, 2010:
President Obama in Ministerial Meeting on Sudan: "The Fate of Millions"
January 6, 2011:
Expectations and Implications: A Discussion on the Southern Sudan Referendum"
West Wing Week: "Dispatches from Sudan"
Posted by Arun Chaudhary
Today the official preliminary results from the historic referendum in Sudan were released. The people of Southern Sudan appear to have voted overwhelmingly in support of independence: total turnout was about 97 percent with almost 99 percent of voters casting their ballots to create the worlds newest nation. West Wing Week was on the ground in Sudan during the week-long referendum, traveling to all parts of the country with the Presidents Special Envoy, General Scott Gration. We went behind the scenes at polling stations from Juba to Khartoum, met some of the international community who helped to ensure the vote was fair and peaceful, and traveled to Darfur to inspect conditions and learn about the commitment of the United States to peace in this region after decades of civil war.
<video>
See a few links below on the President's engagement on the issue:
October 19, 2009:
A Comprehensive Strategy for Sudan
November 12, 2009:
A Public Dialogue on Darfur
September 24, 2010:
President Obama in Ministerial Meeting on Sudan: "The Fate of Millions"
January 6, 2011:
Expectations and Implications: A Discussion on the Southern Sudan Referendum"
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/02/02/west-wing-week-dispatches-sudan
Sudan: The reality after the split
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2013/04/201342142043365293.html
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Is This Barack Obama's 2nd Term? Is it Bill Clinton's 3rd? Or Is It Ronald Reagan's 9th? [View all]
Octafish
Apr 2013
OP
I can't wait to see you somehow tie this all to the BFEE and the Kennedy assassination...nt
SidDithers
Apr 2013
#26
Seeing how you've never posted anything critical of the BFEE or the Warren Commission...
Octafish
Apr 2013
#42
I'm continually amazed at the "sources" that the so-called progressives at DU use...nt
SidDithers
Apr 2013
#22
You mean like the Moonie Washington Times? Me too. That right wing rag was created to
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#58
Based on my dread of reading the news every day - they are peas in the exact same pod.
forestpath
Apr 2013
#3
Lincoln-FDR-LBJ-Obama. The four greatest presidents ever.And Hillary in 2016
graham4anything
Apr 2013
#4
Don't bother them, Pro. This thread alone has probably boosted Black Agenda Report's readership
Number23
Apr 2013
#31
Yawn. More bullshit from "alternative" news sites with nobodies pretending to be journalists.
DemocraticProse
Apr 2013
#28
And what could possibly increase traffic to a such a high-profile website?...
SidDithers
Apr 2013
#32
I'm a Kennedy Democrat. How foreign policy has changed since JFK administration...
Octafish
Apr 2013
#44