President Obama has done more to help the poor and middle class than any President since LBJ

[freshwest]

174. I don't think so, and I'm probably one of the biggest believers in socialism here.

It's almost a mania with me, but I have to live in the real world and not be dogmatic or tribalist. I want a system more like Norway, but even they are losing some of what they had going. The right wingers are right about Obama's goals resulting in socialism. He's going in steps to implement it but not by name.

I don't care what it's called. I care what gets done. And I've seen a lot get done up close. Not the way we used to do with when we had more public support, as it's nearly impossible to even use such language in this country anymore due to brainwashing.

We'll be working on something else, call it by another name, put it to work a different way but so many hate government, even here at DU, that it's a hard road.

Socialism requires people to work within government and give up some things many refuse for the greater good. The honest desire for decentralization of power and more horizontal power structures has been deemed both more democratic and better for the planet. So we are probably going to have to do a round around.

JMHO.