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99. Maybe some of us want to wait for all the facts to come out first before freaking out?

Tue May 14, 2013, 07:31 PM

May 2013

I'd be loathe to trust anything that crawls out of the woodwork right now at the moment, particularly if it is right-wing based.

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Why are there so many apologists on this board for the civil liberties overreaches of this... [View all] villager May 2013 OP

Was looking for the person who outed Valerie Plame CJCRANE May 2013 #1

Journalists were directly subpoenaed. None of this back door 3rd party bullshit. Luminous Animal May 2013 #42

going to continue that BS argument despite being corrected this morning? frylock May 2013 #105

it's freaking the hell out of me. I don't know what to say beyond cali May 2013 #2

Happy to be the first K&R. Melinda May 2013 #3

Defending party, not principle.... on point May 2013 #4

But what will happen to the party if we don't focus on principle? Yo_Mama May 2013 #119

Too many start with the question, morningfog May 2013 #5

For a second ... JoePhilly May 2013 #12

+44. they indeed are happy. But then they never were happy in 2008 or 2012 in the 1st place graham4anything May 2013 #30

you are both WRONG Skittles May 2013 #34

you are entitled to your opinion as we all are. graham4anything May 2013 #37

not opinion, FACT Skittles May 2013 #38

It was correctly called OPINION jaysunb May 2013 #50

+ a million. Go get'em, jaysun Number23 May 2013 #82

get 'em? Skittles May 2013 #87

Witty as ever. Truly. Number23 May 2013 #90

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! Skittles May 2013 #92

Oh, the pleasure is all mine. You Better Believe It. Number23 May 2013 #93

creepy Skittles May 2013 #97

Don't be so hard on yourself. Number23 May 2013 #100

Excellent comeback! BlueCaliDem May 2013 #113

Perhaps they want to make sure they know the facts. Just because the media says its so, doesn't still_one May 2013 #6

Facts, Facts??? We don't need no stinking facts. JoePhilly May 2013 #9

When the press goes out of their way to get the views from folks from the bush administration, I still_one May 2013 #16

No argument there. JoePhilly May 2013 #21

in the case of the Niceguy1 May 2013 #23

K&R quinnox May 2013 #7

I don't think all of the story is out there upaloopa May 2013 #8

Who said, with respect to the AP story: AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #17

Let's look at the second qoute you posted ... JoePhilly May 2013 #26

The word often means... bobclark86 May 2013 #63

Like I said I don't think all of the story is out there upaloopa May 2013 #28

You qualified what you said by saying, "Why do so many accept the Faux News version of all this?" AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #101

This is NOT about one story. :-/ n/t DeSwiss May 2013 #58

With regard to the IRS story, I agree. JDPriestly May 2013 #64

^^ This. winter is coming May 2013 #73

There is some middle ground between geek tragedy May 2013 #10

+1 CJCRANE May 2013 #15

maybe G_j May 2013 #22

just like when people get accused of being authoritarian fanboy worshippers . . nt geek tragedy May 2013 #24

very true G_j May 2013 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author bvar22 May 2013 #71

+1000 maddezmom May 2013 #86

Maybe because they are neither liberals nor progressives. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #11

No "Maybe" about it. nt NorthCarolina May 2013 #115

Blind faith, blind allegiance are exactly what the powers that be want most in a people. Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #13

+1 KoKo May 2013 #25

-1 but then everyone has an angle.Everyone knows everyone's angle.redux. graham4anything May 2013 #40

And YOURS is to REPEATEDLY excuse behaviour in the current Administration,... TheMadMonk May 2013 #116

It's O, it's a Dem -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #14

Where was the DU outrage when Judith Miller was jailed for not telling who her source was JoePhilly May 2013 #29

I was pissed off. Luminous Animal May 2013 #45

That was one reporter with one source, not the entire New York Times for 2 months. dkf May 2013 #51

That source turned out to be two-faced and only wanted to line his pockets. asjr May 2013 #66

Ah, so the issue is the number of people. JoePhilly May 2013 #72

Yes. It should have been targeted if anything. dkf May 2013 #88

Some republicans had a tenuous grasp on sanity and so started calling themselves Democrats? n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl May 2013 #19

pretty much Johonny May 2013 #32

Because my friend, it's the LAW and not an overreach. Zen Democrat May 2013 #20

I don't know about you but... randome May 2013 #27

they are Groupies Skittles May 2013 #33

whatever, I can remember you all in swoon over Hillary. MjolnirTime May 2013 #36

I WAS NOT A HILLARY SUPPORTER Skittles May 2013 #39

I get that regularly, too. Marr May 2013 #109

not to mention John the fraud Edwards, who used a whisper campaign against the other 2 graham4anything May 2013 #43

Why did you make this President into an enemy to be defeated?? MjolnirTime May 2013 #35

When did this administration make his most ardent supporters an enemy to be shunned? villager May 2013 #46

Don't bother trying to figure it out, NorthCarolina May 2013 #118

I can find no possible excuse or rationalization for the continued unConstitutional actions of POTUS Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #80

Welcome to the Flintstone Era loaded with DINOs. nt valerief May 2013 #41

thanks..but I will wait..... chillfactor May 2013 #44

When the main outers of these civil liberties Progressive dog May 2013 #47

Cult of personallity worshippers and pride. L0oniX May 2013 #48

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power... Southerner May 2013 #49

What distinguishes you guys from Teabaggers? I'll be damned if I can tell the diff anymore. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #52

Wrong on... well, pretty much all counts, Tarheel! villager May 2013 #54

I'm gonna let this thread die a proper death. I won't be "explaining" anything further. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #78

Kucinich was trying to blame Pres Obama on fox screws the other day.. Cha May 2013 #67

You could've just used your "You Never Really Loved Him" stamp. Marr May 2013 #69

Ya Better Believe It! treestar May 2013 #75

Not sure why right of center folks keep making the mistake of associating Kucinich with Ron Paul. NorthCarolina May 2013 #122

what I still find disgustig and appalling after all these years... Whisp May 2013 #53

Let's impeach! Impeach! Impeach! Impeach! Anansi1171 May 2013 #55

Fuck Ralph Nader. Ikonoklast May 2013 #77

So many? George II May 2013 #56

What specific breaches of civil liberties are you referring to? JDPriestly May 2013 #57

JD, it's true that there are deeply institutional assaults on our civil liberties, that transcend villager May 2013 #60

What's the point of being in government if you can't sic the IRS on your enemies? Nye Bevan May 2013 #59

Loyalty Oafs. Octafish May 2013 #61

+1 villager May 2013 #62

+1 Marr May 2013 #70

but it's just OPINIONS, don't you know? Skittles May 2013 #89

Loyalty. Obedience. woo me with science May 2013 #117

ROFLMAO !!! - K & R !!! WillyT May 2013 #126

Pain avoidance Junkdrawer May 2013 #128

I consider the source(s). The MSM is tainted by bias to the GOP, & the GOP is hellbent on destroying Hekate May 2013 #65

Add my name Vietnameravet May 2013 #81

+1. And hellbent DU'ers are more than happy to jump on the GOP/Bandwagon emulatorloo May 2013 #120

I think some will actually feel justified... Hekate May 2013 #125

Because we're waiting for the facts Politicub May 2013 #68

So people who don't agree with you on everything are all the things you say in your post? treestar May 2013 #74

How about some examples? texshelters May 2013 #76

This board is heavily propagandized. woo me with science May 2013 #79

! Phlem May 2013 #83

+1 daleanime May 2013 #91

Hammer meet nail. NorthCarolina May 2013 #127

This board is heavily propagandized by Pot-Stirrers emulatorloo May 2013 #129

This is a partisan website Cal Carpenter May 2013 #84

I notice ProSense May 2013 #85

Because the enemy of my enemy is my friend even when he is also my enemy Addison May 2013 #94

My opinion. timdog44 May 2013 #95

+1 MetasticTwine May 2013 #98

My knee jerk reaction was... golfguru May 2013 #96

Maybe some of us want to wait for all the facts to come out first before freaking out? Proud Liberal Dem May 2013 #99

My thoughts timdog44 May 2013 #102

When politics is a sport...you will defend your team nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #103

Fair question. H2O Man May 2013 #104

Not a fair question. timdog44 May 2013 #111

Geez can we at least wait.... humbled_opinion May 2013 #106

So we are suppose to be John2 May 2013 #107

Same sheep Eddie Haskell May 2013 #108

Some put party above everything. Skip Intro May 2013 #110

Thank you. nt woo me with science May 2013 #124

"Americans" who criticize our country during time of war are giving aid and comfort to the enemy Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #112

A spade is a spade no matter who holds the hand. AAO May 2013 #114

Perhaps "Thanks, Obama!?!" isn't always the right response to a problem bhikkhu May 2013 #121

Why is there a handful of loud DU'ers so eager to join the Rightwing Noise Machine? emulatorloo May 2013 #123

Locking Turborama May 2013 #130