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In reply to the discussion: FBI certainly respected the Civil Rights of one guy before 9/11 [View all]leveymg
(36,418 posts)10. Much of the myth of CIA privatization is myth, except the money. P.S. - Harvey Point is where
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they trained for the Bin Laden mission. Interesting that Prince's larger property is virtually adjacent. Symbolic of the still secret relationship between CIA and Blackwater/Xi/Academi. You do know who Cofer Black is, and about his role at the center of CIA-CIA letting the Flt. 77 hijackers into the US and cancelling the warning cable that was to go out to FBI, and how he and Richard Blee later made it so easy for UBL walk out of Tora Bora.
Anyway, here's more on the goings on down in the Great Dismal Swamp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Point
The Harvey Point Defense Testing Activity facility, owned by the Department of Defense, is located on a peninsula in Perquimans County, North Carolina, along the Albemarle Sound, near the city of Hertford, NC. It was established in World War II as Naval Air Station Harvey Point, an operating base for sea planes conducting anti-submarine surveillance off the Atlantic coast. A close-by naval facility, Naval Air Station Weeksville, served as a blimp base during and after World War II.
To comply with various procurement regulations, the Department of the Navy holds the title to and budgetary responsibility for the facility. Agencies such as the ATF, CIA, and FBI have used the facility for complex training relating to overseas counter terrorism and asset protection training.[citation needed][1]
Contents
1 History
2 World War II
3 Current use
4 See also
5 References
History
The point was originally occupied during the 1670s by the Harvey Family, including North Carolina's first native-born governor, Thomas Harvey -- hence the name "Harvey Point."[citation needed]
World War II
Courthouse records indicate that in November 1942 the United States Navy purchased the point, roughly 1,200 acres (5 km2), for $41,751. The Navy then constructed an air station on the property for use during World War II. During World War II Harvey Point was used as a seaplane base.
After the war, the naval air station was deactivated until 1958 when the Navy announced Harvey Point would serve as the testing grounds for the new Martin P6M Seamaster, an experimental jet-powered long-range seaplane bomber. The project was cancelled in August 1959 when the Navy determined the aircraft wasn't successful enough for it to continue providing support for the program. Then, in 1961, the Navy returned to the property and announced that the property was closed to the public; it has remained that way ever since.
Current use
Specialty military air operations are located at this facility, as the installation has two usable landing fields and plans for a third. Through a NOTAM order issued by the FAA on behalf of several agencies, a permanent "no-fly zone" exists within 25 radial miles of the facility due to the ordnance testing that occurs at the facility and the related hazards that exist for general aviation.[citation needed] A significant portion of the air space within the Albemarle Sound is jointly administered and monitored by the FAA and the US Navy.[citation needed] Harvey Point is also used for CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) paramilitary and counter-terrorism courses that involve high explosives and ballistics. The explosives are used to simulate terrorist bombs and can be heard for miles in the surrounding communities.[2] It was also used by Navy Seal Team Six to train for the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, in a scale mockup of his secret compound.[3][4]
See also
Camp Peary
CIA University
Sherman Kent School for Intelligence Analysis
Warrenton Training Center
References
^ Weiner, Tim (March 20, 1998). "Is the Explosion-Noisy Base a C.I.A. Spy School? What Base?". New York Times. Retrieved April 4, 2013.
^ "Is the Explosion-Noisy Base a C.I.A. Spy School? What Base? - New York Times". Nytimes.com. 1998-03-20. Retrieved 2012-10-10.
^ Farber, Dan (2012-05-25). "Bing map shows CIA's secret Bin Laden compound mock-up | Internet & Media - CNET News". News.cnet.com. Retrieved 2012-10-10.
^ "Satellite Images of the CIA's Secret Bin Laden Training Facility - Global". The Atlantic Wire. 2011-02-15. Retrieved 2012-10-10.
http://cryptome.org/harvey-eyeball.htm
http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1998/apr/d01-004.shtml
http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A17746
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/20/world/is-the-explosion-noisy-base-a-cia-spy-school-what-base.html
To comply with various procurement regulations, the Department of the Navy holds the title to and budgetary responsibility for the facility. Agencies such as the ATF, CIA, and FBI have used the facility for complex training relating to overseas counter terrorism and asset protection training.[citation needed][1]
Contents
1 History
2 World War II
3 Current use
4 See also
5 References
History
The point was originally occupied during the 1670s by the Harvey Family, including North Carolina's first native-born governor, Thomas Harvey -- hence the name "Harvey Point."[citation needed]
World War II
Courthouse records indicate that in November 1942 the United States Navy purchased the point, roughly 1,200 acres (5 km2), for $41,751. The Navy then constructed an air station on the property for use during World War II. During World War II Harvey Point was used as a seaplane base.
After the war, the naval air station was deactivated until 1958 when the Navy announced Harvey Point would serve as the testing grounds for the new Martin P6M Seamaster, an experimental jet-powered long-range seaplane bomber. The project was cancelled in August 1959 when the Navy determined the aircraft wasn't successful enough for it to continue providing support for the program. Then, in 1961, the Navy returned to the property and announced that the property was closed to the public; it has remained that way ever since.
Current use
Specialty military air operations are located at this facility, as the installation has two usable landing fields and plans for a third. Through a NOTAM order issued by the FAA on behalf of several agencies, a permanent "no-fly zone" exists within 25 radial miles of the facility due to the ordnance testing that occurs at the facility and the related hazards that exist for general aviation.[citation needed] A significant portion of the air space within the Albemarle Sound is jointly administered and monitored by the FAA and the US Navy.[citation needed] Harvey Point is also used for CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) paramilitary and counter-terrorism courses that involve high explosives and ballistics. The explosives are used to simulate terrorist bombs and can be heard for miles in the surrounding communities.[2] It was also used by Navy Seal Team Six to train for the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, in a scale mockup of his secret compound.[3][4]
See also
Camp Peary
CIA University
Sherman Kent School for Intelligence Analysis
Warrenton Training Center
References
^ Weiner, Tim (March 20, 1998). "Is the Explosion-Noisy Base a C.I.A. Spy School? What Base?". New York Times. Retrieved April 4, 2013.
^ "Is the Explosion-Noisy Base a C.I.A. Spy School? What Base? - New York Times". Nytimes.com. 1998-03-20. Retrieved 2012-10-10.
^ Farber, Dan (2012-05-25). "Bing map shows CIA's secret Bin Laden compound mock-up | Internet & Media - CNET News". News.cnet.com. Retrieved 2012-10-10.
^ "Satellite Images of the CIA's Secret Bin Laden Training Facility - Global". The Atlantic Wire. 2011-02-15. Retrieved 2012-10-10.
http://cryptome.org/harvey-eyeball.htm
http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1998/apr/d01-004.shtml
http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A17746
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/20/world/is-the-explosion-noisy-base-a-cia-spy-school-what-base.html
Note5: Blackwater Airstrip is well inside that 25 radial mile FAA "no fly zone" of Harvey Point DTA. Technically, anyone landing or taking off at Blackwater would be in violation of FAA rules, unless of course they were themselves the CIA or DoD or invited guests. What does than make Blackwater, itself, since it opened its own airstrip there in Sept. '03 and started running rendition flights?
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Blackwater Training Facility is across the street from the "CIA's facility at Harvey Point, NC."
leveymg
Jun 2013
#8
I'm not worried about separation of church and state as that of private enterprise...
Octafish
Jun 2013
#9
Much of the myth of CIA privatization is myth, except the money. P.S. - Harvey Point is where
leveymg
Jun 2013
#10
Wikileaks Release Suggests Stratfor, CIA Inside Info Plan with Goldman Sachs Exec
Octafish
Jun 2013
#13