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struggle4progress

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24. This became clear to me when I tried to check Greenwald's claims about Swedish extradition law
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 09:38 PM
Jun 2013

David Allen Green, at the New Statesman -- where the editor Jemima Khan had put of some of Assange's bail money -- wrote two quite informative columns Legal myths about the Assange extradition and The legal mythology of the extradition of Julian Assange

Mr Greenwald disliked Mr Green's claims in the first column and wrote a response

The New Statesman must correct its error over Assange and extradition
... Green claimed that "<i>t would not be legally possible for Swedish government to give any guarantee about a future extradition, and nor would it have any binding effect on the Swedish legal system in the event of a future extradition request" ...This is completely and unquestionably false ... Mark Klamberg – a professor of international law at the University of Stockholm – ... dissects Sweden's extradition law and makes Green's error as clear as it can be ...

Klamberg then tweets:
@ggreenwald is only qouting half of my statement and distorts my conclusion http://gu.com/p/3ax4a/tw @davidallengreen
https://twitter.com/Klamberg/status/239028648424898560

Klamberg then followed up with a lengthy blog post:

Sequencing and the discretion of the Government in Extradition cases
The problem is that Greenwald earlier and later in the same text argues for a sequence that would put the Government before the Supreme Court. In essence he is arguing that the Government should have the first and the last say with the Supreme Court in the middle. That would make the Supreme Court redundant which is contrary to the sequence that is provided for in the Extradition Act which I have tried to describe. It may also violate the principle of separation of powers.

At the time I looked into this, a number of tweets and emails were available by web-search, between various persons involved in this exchange, but it was not easy to sort it all out: Greenwald IMO has a habit of selectively quoting people out of context and then aggressively denying that he misrepresented what they were saying. I've just posting here enough of what I can easily reconstruct to show that Greenwald (1) misrepresented Klamberg's views and (2) knew soon after that Klamberg complained Greenwald misrepresented Klamberg's views (see the tweet page above) -- and as far as I can tell, Greenwald never admitted anywhere that he had misrepresented Klamberg's views


It's All About Greenwald [View all] babylonsister Jun 2013 OP
The author is definitely right about one thing burnodo Jun 2013 #1
You forgot the rest of the quote... babylonsister Jun 2013 #3
No doubt.. Cha Jun 2013 #5
I quoted him. burnodo Jun 2013 #8
That's just evidence for the first part. LWolf Jun 2013 #51
So Greenwald has set his sights on the Obama administration (after giving Bush a pass).. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #2
Yup... SidDithers Jun 2013 #12
Bullshit Sid whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #18
Poor Sid. Losing it. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #38
He certainly did not give the Bush Admin a pass. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #40
He is also known to have sock puppets Whisp Jun 2013 #43
how on earth did he give Bush a pass? Here's 2008 interview with Bill Moyer- about the Bush legacy Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #47
Greenwald set his sights on Pelosi even before Obama became President Kolesar Jun 2013 #52
Thank you, booman, for getting this out there. Cha Jun 2013 #4
He's destroyed his journalistic credibility treestar Jun 2013 #6
I wouldn't call Greenwald "intentionally unfair," I'd call him an advocate. last1standing Jun 2013 #7
Well stated! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #13
What is he an advocate for? What causes does he push? It's certainly not for the truth. baldguy Jun 2013 #25
Greenwald has advocated for many good causes. last1standing Jun 2013 #27
"Daylight is the best disinfectant." baldguy Jun 2013 #32
I'm sorry but I don't think we will ever be able to truly communicate. last1standing Jun 2013 #33
I get it. You can't stand the fact that your hero has feet of clay. baldguy Jun 2013 #34
Did I insult you or those you respect? last1standing Jun 2013 #35
Since when is stating the obvious an insult? baldguy Jun 2013 #36
It sounds like you have been misled somehow by Greenwald. reusrename Jun 2013 #49
What do you advocate for? It certainly aint the truth. It certainly aint transparency. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #39
You obviously have a different concept of truth. baldguy Jun 2013 #44
I am ignoring the Corp-Media's aim at distraction and advocating future investigations in order to rhett o rick Jun 2013 #50
He can't promote his cause without bringing down Progressive dog Jun 2013 #54
This strikes me as a generally correct assessment of his rhetorical style. (nt) NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #9
You're so cruel..... KoKo Jun 2013 #16
It's not a bad style, mind you. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #20
yes...I understand what you say when you are drawn out..but, still... KoKo Jun 2013 #22
That's a terrible way to approach journalism. Most people trust them. We don't trust lawyers. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #10
"Booman" was Scoffed at and viewed as a "Spy Ware Version" of Wayne Madsen... KoKo Jun 2013 #11
In other words, he's not a journalist; he's a propagandist. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #14
According to "BooMan.' KoKo Jun 2013 #17
Not a journalist. He's an axgrinder. n/t madamesilverspurs Jun 2013 #15
and just what is he grinding? burnodo Jun 2013 #19
Okay...aside from "Boo Man's Authority" on this..what is YOUR Reasoning KoKo Jun 2013 #21
fact free word salad = GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #23
This became clear to me when I tried to check Greenwald's claims about Swedish extradition law struggle4progress Jun 2013 #24
Yeah, Greenwald is full of jabberwocky. Cha Jun 2013 #26
He is an op-ed writer who is paid for his viewpoint. Nothing more, nothing less. Always on salary. graham4anything Jun 2013 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Jun 2013 #29
Who's BooMan? progressoid Jun 2013 #30
Boo Man. The Link Jun 2013 #31
cool story frylock Jun 2013 #37
Greenwald's style is more honest than those pretending to be "objective". backscatter712 Jun 2013 #41
Agreed, the least trustworthy people are those who claim to be objective Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #53
DU rec... SidDithers Jun 2013 #42
Glenn Greenwald speeks out Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #45
I don't pay attention to HIS analysis of documents, people, events, etc. Are_grits_groceries Jun 2013 #46
he does occassionally, 'make things up' bigtree Jun 2013 #48
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2013 #55
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