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Maedhros

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47. The fact that people are denying that anything wrong happened

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Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:37 PM

Jul 2013

is disconcerting.

It cannot be denied, in good faith, that diplomatic protocol was violated.

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Forcing down Evo Morales's plane was an act of air piracy [View all] Octafish Jul 2013 OP

Happy to be the 1st rec, of! Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #1

Pilger brought up Harold Pinter... Octafish Jul 2013 #15

Pilger is one of the most informed investigative journalists in the news business today. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #99

In my opinion what our country did is wrong. Marrah_G Jul 2013 #2

+1 nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #11

+2 Octafish Jul 2013 #29

+3 leftstreet Jul 2013 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author ReRe Jul 2013 #76

+4 Enthusiast Jul 2013 #72

+5 ReRe Jul 2013 #78

+6 woo me with science Jul 2013 #93

Western imperialists have pirated the globe's resources leftstreet Jul 2013 #3

What Steve Kangas wrote... Octafish Jul 2013 #32

John Kerry thinks he's John Bolton Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #4

The decision to close air space to a diplomatic flight could only've come from Kerry's boss. Octafish Jul 2013 #37

Kerry been on his yacht h Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #41

+1,000 malaise Jul 2013 #51

Amazing treestar Jul 2013 #5

How many events will take place before you realize what happened was WRONG? Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #7

What happened? treestar Jul 2013 #12

What do YOU think happened, treestar? MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #124

I don't know what happened treestar Jul 2013 #133

Wow... what an avoided answer, treestar... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #139

Why didn't you answer my question? treestar Jul 2013 #140

Please don't disgrace the post by indicating you answered me... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #141

I don't know, when will someone from your side address important questions such as: okaawhatever Jul 2013 #49

Guess another term that's missing is ''Fascism.'' Octafish Jul 2013 #40

Perhaps you could educate us as to what the event should be called. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #64

Silliness. The plane wasn't "forced" down ProSense Jul 2013 #6

Linking to your own threads is... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #9

Narcissism is as narcissism does. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #17

. Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #18

Why on ProSense Jul 2013 #25

Do you think the comment was referring to you? HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #28

Yes, but now you're going to pretend it didn't ProSense Jul 2013 #30

No one was called out, it was an open-ended comment. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #33

OK ProSense Jul 2013 #34

I don't believe you are really rolling on the floor, bvar22 Jul 2013 #94

Comments about "linking" ProSense Jul 2013 #23

Tis what it Tis... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #24

Repeatedly spamming a board with one's own blue links, to the point... SaveOurDemocracy Jul 2013 #70

I know, I know. I do it too much. Octafish Jul 2013 #36

But I've found your self-linking to be supportive of your OP... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #108

A diplomatic flight is prevented from re-fueling when scheduled and searched upon landing. Octafish Jul 2013 #43

DU runs on hyperbole... SidDithers Jul 2013 #46

and the President is backwoodsbob Jul 2013 #57

You forgot Reagan, his favorite........nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #73

! zappaman Jul 2013 #8

You Have A Problem With John Pilger? HangOnKids Jul 2013 #14

"nugentman"? zappaman Jul 2013 #16

Oh shit sorry I thought your handle was nugentman HangOnKids Jul 2013 #19

No worries. zappaman Jul 2013 #22

lol!!! Number23 Jul 2013 #106

I can see how that typo might happen, Binka... SidDithers Jul 2013 #48

Anything to add, zappaman? Octafish Jul 2013 #52

I think laughter is the appropriate response to this hyperbole. zappaman Jul 2013 #54

Then you've missed the point. Octafish Jul 2013 #59

Let me get this straight. randome Jul 2013 #10

US Aid (i.e. $$$) is quite the carrot... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #13

But why not let him land in Portugal as intended? randome Jul 2013 #20

Portugal wouldn't let him land. Spain would have, but France wouldn't let him fly through. morningfog Jul 2013 #27

But if they were doing this because we were pulling the strings... randome Jul 2013 #45

France has said they did allow permission to their airspace Major Nikon Jul 2013 #65

Interesting that Austria is the only non NATO country involved. Downwinder Jul 2013 #31

You'd think we'd have more pull with the other countries but they didn't want to get involved? randome Jul 2013 #53

More like an opportunity for denial. Downwinder Jul 2013 #56

Still denying that it happend? rusty fender Jul 2013 #89

It was a violation of international law and a display of ... dawg Jul 2013 #21

Of course you wouldn't call it piracy. zappaman Jul 2013 #26

So stop saying that! dawg Jul 2013 #35

I agree, not piracy. Rex Jul 2013 #66

lol'ing at the people pretending this isn't a big deal Hydra Jul 2013 #38

Ok Hydra and others, what is the truth here? I have read conflicting accounts on what happened so cstanleytech Jul 2013 #44

There's a writeup thread in greatest Hydra Jul 2013 #75

See the main problem I am having is this link cstanleytech Jul 2013 #84

I'll look at it when I get a minute Hydra Jul 2013 #95

Ok, I read the link Hydra Jul 2013 #102

Ok thanks for the clarification. cstanleytech Jul 2013 #103

Oh, I know France and the others don't want Snowden Hydra Jul 2013 #104

No one FORCED the aircraft to land. Their claim that they had fuel gauge problems is suspect. okaawhatever Jul 2013 #55

The aircraft had filed a flight plan, including authorization for re-fueling in Spain. Octafish Jul 2013 #60

I beg to differ. The authorization of the flight plan was for the Canary Islands. There may be a okaawhatever Jul 2013 #62

That's clearly not what happened here Major Nikon Jul 2013 #67

Freedom from persecution not freedom from prosecution. Important difference. n/t SylviaD Jul 2013 #42

The fact that people are denying that anything wrong happened Maedhros Jul 2013 #47

As the 'center' keeps moving ever rightward... Octafish Jul 2013 #68

Don't use the "F" word to describe what the NSA is doing. Maedhros Jul 2013 #111

It's pretty clear by now that Bolivia was pretty disengenuous regarding their account Major Nikon Jul 2013 #69

I wouldn't say Bolivia has been any more disingenuous that France or Spain or Austria... Maedhros Jul 2013 #105

As I said, it's either one or the other Major Nikon Jul 2013 #107

Damn you BFEE!!!...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #50

Why you find fun in the BFEE is your own affair, SidDithers. Octafish Jul 2013 #58

OMG Sid!!! greytdemocrat Jul 2013 #61

silence from the white house is bs.. I cant believe it xiamiam Jul 2013 #63

The thing exposes incompetence, all around. Octafish Jul 2013 #71

Equally disturbing is the media's dismissal of the issue markiv Jul 2013 #74

this incident is profoundly more important than the travon martin trial markiv Jul 2013 #80

It is most troubling. Octafish Jul 2013 #88

Why don't we wait for the whole story to come out before jumping to conclusions? Rstrstx Jul 2013 #77

You can wait for the official version. The facts speak for themselves. Octafish Jul 2013 #81

The FACT is that his plane was NOT forced to land. Please stop spreading misinformation. Tx4obama Jul 2013 #87

War is Peace. woo me with science Jul 2013 #92

Ignorance is Strength. Octafish Jul 2013 #97

France has apologized to Morales... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #82

When did Austria finger the CIA? Rstrstx Jul 2013 #91

And it was the US Ambassador who made the call to the Foreign Ministry Catherina Jul 2013 #117

Air Piracy lol Progressive dog Jul 2013 #79

What did Snowden do that would make the United States government act like a fascist power? Octafish Jul 2013 #83

Air Piracy and Fascist Progressive dog Jul 2013 #86

Morales shouldn't be held or diverted anywhere. That's the point of international treaties. Octafish Jul 2013 #96

Assuming a treaty was violated (one wasn't), Progressive dog Jul 2013 #112

Hey! You got that right. But you'd be wrong. Octafish Jul 2013 #113

Air piracy and fascism is now violating a tradition Progressive dog Jul 2013 #114

Morales as a head of state doesn't have to pull his aircraft over for anybody. Octafish Jul 2013 #115

Air piracy and fascism is now a traffic stop Progressive dog Jul 2013 #116

No. The traffic stop is an easy to understand allegory. Octafish Jul 2013 #119

I'm glad you understand how traffic stop is an allegory for air piracy, Progressive dog Jul 2013 #120

So, you do understand. The obtuse act was rhetorical. Octafish Jul 2013 #122

Fascism and air piracy indicates being okay with dishonestly Progressive dog Jul 2013 #123

With the exception of France, those nations all were onboard the CIA Torture Train. Octafish Jul 2013 #126

Fascism and piracy, now torture trains Progressive dog Jul 2013 #127

It's too bad you don't see the connection. Octafish Jul 2013 #129

So the US is not a democracy because Snowden and Progressive dog Jul 2013 #130

Not quite. In the USA, money trumps elections. Octafish Jul 2013 #131

Got it, money buys air piracy , torture trains, and fascism Progressive dog Jul 2013 #132

Precisely. And exactly why Morales should be respected. Octafish Jul 2013 #134

This gets funnier by the minute Progressive dog Jul 2013 #135

There is nothing funny about fascism. Octafish Jul 2013 #137

I'm not talking about humor in fascism. Progressive dog Jul 2013 #142

K&R idwiyo Jul 2013 #85

'The incident demonstrates...the Obama administration will go to any lengths to silence Snowden... Octafish Jul 2013 #98

You don't say! Universal Health Care? OMG!1!! Quick, sprinkle some holy water around to ward off the idwiyo Jul 2013 #100

I'm old enough to remember that... ReRe Jul 2013 #90

Wouldn't that be handy! idwiyo Jul 2013 #101

US (and French) Courts Have Ruled Head-of-State Immunity is Absolute Octafish Jul 2013 #109

What's a "mope"? ReRe Jul 2013 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Catherina Jul 2013 #118

Isn't it great to see... 99Forever Jul 2013 #121

The progress on issues that have nothing to do with power and profit are nice. Octafish Jul 2013 #125

It looks like our Gov. NSA or whoever must be hiding something dreadful. JEB Jul 2013 #128

DC Madam's phone records hinted the corruption was in all three branches... Octafish Jul 2013 #136

They sure are anxious to pour the concrete on the whole Snowden affair. JEB Jul 2013 #138