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Octafish

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125. The progress on issues that have nothing to do with power and profit are nice.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jul 2013

Equal Rights, Civil Rights, Marriage Equality in the "Homeland" have certainly improved. But, each and every issue having to do with power and profit have gone the warmongers' way, including the disrespect shown toward the non-white world, from Bolivia, Haiti and Honduras to Pakistan, DR Congo, Egypt and any place else where the people are being separated from the resources by Wall Street and the ownership class.

Cruise Missile Liberals might want to read Bruce Dixon of Black Agenda Report's take on things:



Is This Barack Obama's 2nd Term or Bill Clinton's 3rd Term, or Ronald Regan's 9th?

They say that elections do matter, and that there are real differences between Republican and Democratic presidents. But backing up the view to 30 years, that difference looks a lot more like continuity, both at home and in America's global empire.

By Bruce A. Dixon
Black Agenda Report managing editor

The answer is yes to all three. Ronald Reagan hasn't darkened the White House door in decades. But his policy objectives have been what every president, Democrat and Republican have pursued relentlessly ever since. Barack Obama is only the latest and most successful of Reagan's disciples.

SNIP...

In Barack Obama's case all he had to say was that he wasn't necessarily against wars, just against what he called “stupid wars.” Corporate media and “liberal” shills morphed that lone statement into a false narrative that Barack Obama opposed the war in Iraq, making him an instantly viable presidential candidate at a time when the American people overwhelmingly opposed that war. Once in office, Barack Obama strove mightily to abrogate the Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq which would have allowed US forces to remain there indefinitely. But when the Iraqi puppet government, faced with a near revolt on the part of what remained of Iraqi civil society, dared not do his bidding, insisting that uniformed US troops (but not the American and multinational mercenaries we pay to remain there) stick to the withdrawal timetable agreed upon under Bush, liberal shills and corporate media hailed the withdrawal from Iraq as Obama's “victory.”

Barack Obama doubled down on the invasion and occupation of large areas of Afghanistan, and increased the size of the army and marines, which in fact he pledged to do during his presidential campaign. Presidential candidate Obama promised to end secret imprisonment and torture. The best one can say about President Obama on this score is that he seems to prefer murderous and indiscriminate drone attacks, in many cases, over the Bush policy of international kidnapping secret imprisonment and torture. The Obama administration's reliance on drones combined with US penetration of the African continent, means that a Democratic, ostensibly “antiwar” president has been able to openly deploy US troops to every part of that continent in support of its drive to control the oil, water, and other resources there.

The objectives President Obama's Africa policies fulfill today were put down on paper by the Bush administration, pursued by Bill Clinton before that, and still earlier pursued by Ronald Reagan, when it funded murderous contra armies of UNITA in Angola and RENAMO in Mozambque. It was UNITA and RENAMO's campaigns, assisted by the apartheid regimes of Israel and South Africa that pioneered the genocidal use of child soldiers. Today, cruise missile liberals hail the Obama administration's use of pit bull puppet regimes like Uganda, Burundi and Rwanda, all of which shot their way into power with child soldiers, to invade Somalia and Congo, sometimes ostensibly to go after other bad actors on the grounds that they are using child soldiers.

CONTINUED...

http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/barack-obamas-2nd-term-it-bill-clintons-3rd-or-it-ronald-reagans-9th



Those interested in the oilier aspects of foreign policy might enjoy Michael Klare of TomDispatch's take on things:



Is Barack Obama Morphing Into Dick Cheney?

Four Ways the President Is Pursuing Cheney’s Geopolitics of Global Energy

By Michael T. Klare
TomDispatch.com
June 21, 2012

EXCERPT...

For Cheney, the geopolitics of oil lay at the core of international relations, largely determining the rise and fall of nations. From this, it followed that any steps, including war and environmental devastation, were justified so long as they enhanced America’s power at the expense of its rivals.

Cheney’s World

Through his speeches, Congressional testimony, and actions in office, it is possible to reconstruct the geopolitical blueprint that Cheney followed in his career as a top White House strategist -- a blueprint that President Obama, eerily enough, now appears to be implementing, despite the many risks involved.

That blueprint consists of four key features:

1. Promote domestic oil and gas production at any cost to reduce America’s dependence on unfriendly foreign suppliers, thereby increasing Washington's freedom of action.

2. Keep control over the oil flow from the Persian Gulf (even if the U.S. gets an ever-diminishing share of its own oil supplies from the region) in order to retain an “economic stranglehold” over other major oil importers.

3. Dominate the sea lanes of Asia, so as to control the flow of oil and other raw materials to America’s potential economic rivals, China and Japan.

4. Promote energy “diversification” in Europe, especially through increased reliance on oil and natural gas supplies from the former Soviet republics of the Caspian Sea basin, in order to reduce Europe’s heavy dependence on Russian oil and gas, along with the political influence this brings Moscow.


CONTINUED...

http://www.tomdispatch.com/archive/175560/



I don't know what others heard in 2008, but I was led to believe there would be change in the government's approach to matters of war and peace, as well as in economic and energy policies. Looking back, I can see I was misled or some new philosophy took hold of the leadership.

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Happy to be the 1st rec, of! Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #1
Pilger brought up Harold Pinter... Octafish Jul 2013 #15
Pilger is one of the most informed investigative journalists in the news business today. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #99
In my opinion what our country did is wrong. Marrah_G Jul 2013 #2
+1 nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #11
+2 Octafish Jul 2013 #29
+3 leftstreet Jul 2013 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author ReRe Jul 2013 #76
+4 Enthusiast Jul 2013 #72
+5 ReRe Jul 2013 #78
+6 woo me with science Jul 2013 #93
Western imperialists have pirated the globe's resources leftstreet Jul 2013 #3
What Steve Kangas wrote... Octafish Jul 2013 #32
John Kerry thinks he's John Bolton Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #4
The decision to close air space to a diplomatic flight could only've come from Kerry's boss. Octafish Jul 2013 #37
Kerry been on his yacht h Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #41
+1,000 malaise Jul 2013 #51
Amazing treestar Jul 2013 #5
How many events will take place before you realize what happened was WRONG? Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #7
What happened? treestar Jul 2013 #12
What do YOU think happened, treestar? MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #124
I don't know what happened treestar Jul 2013 #133
Wow... what an avoided answer, treestar... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #139
Why didn't you answer my question? treestar Jul 2013 #140
Please don't disgrace the post by indicating you answered me... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #141
I don't know, when will someone from your side address important questions such as: okaawhatever Jul 2013 #49
Guess another term that's missing is ''Fascism.'' Octafish Jul 2013 #40
Perhaps you could educate us as to what the event should be called. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #64
Silliness. The plane wasn't "forced" down ProSense Jul 2013 #6
Linking to your own threads is... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #9
Narcissism is as narcissism does. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #17
. Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #18
Why on ProSense Jul 2013 #25
Do you think the comment was referring to you? HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #28
Yes, but now you're going to pretend it didn't ProSense Jul 2013 #30
No one was called out, it was an open-ended comment. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #33
OK ProSense Jul 2013 #34
I don't believe you are really rolling on the floor, bvar22 Jul 2013 #94
Comments about "linking" ProSense Jul 2013 #23
Tis what it Tis... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #24
Repeatedly spamming a board with one's own blue links, to the point... SaveOurDemocracy Jul 2013 #70
I know, I know. I do it too much. Octafish Jul 2013 #36
But I've found your self-linking to be supportive of your OP... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #108
A diplomatic flight is prevented from re-fueling when scheduled and searched upon landing. Octafish Jul 2013 #43
DU runs on hyperbole... SidDithers Jul 2013 #46
and the President is backwoodsbob Jul 2013 #57
You forgot Reagan, his favorite........nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #73
! zappaman Jul 2013 #8
You Have A Problem With John Pilger? HangOnKids Jul 2013 #14
"nugentman"? zappaman Jul 2013 #16
Oh shit sorry I thought your handle was nugentman HangOnKids Jul 2013 #19
No worries. zappaman Jul 2013 #22
lol!!! Number23 Jul 2013 #106
I can see how that typo might happen, Binka... SidDithers Jul 2013 #48
Anything to add, zappaman? Octafish Jul 2013 #52
I think laughter is the appropriate response to this hyperbole. zappaman Jul 2013 #54
Then you've missed the point. Octafish Jul 2013 #59
Let me get this straight. randome Jul 2013 #10
US Aid (i.e. $$$) is quite the carrot... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #13
But why not let him land in Portugal as intended? randome Jul 2013 #20
Portugal wouldn't let him land. Spain would have, but France wouldn't let him fly through. morningfog Jul 2013 #27
But if they were doing this because we were pulling the strings... randome Jul 2013 #45
France has said they did allow permission to their airspace Major Nikon Jul 2013 #65
Interesting that Austria is the only non NATO country involved. Downwinder Jul 2013 #31
You'd think we'd have more pull with the other countries but they didn't want to get involved? randome Jul 2013 #53
More like an opportunity for denial. Downwinder Jul 2013 #56
Still denying that it happend? rusty fender Jul 2013 #89
It was a violation of international law and a display of ... dawg Jul 2013 #21
Of course you wouldn't call it piracy. zappaman Jul 2013 #26
So stop saying that! dawg Jul 2013 #35
I agree, not piracy. Rex Jul 2013 #66
lol'ing at the people pretending this isn't a big deal Hydra Jul 2013 #38
Ok Hydra and others, what is the truth here? I have read conflicting accounts on what happened so cstanleytech Jul 2013 #44
There's a writeup thread in greatest Hydra Jul 2013 #75
See the main problem I am having is this link cstanleytech Jul 2013 #84
I'll look at it when I get a minute Hydra Jul 2013 #95
Ok, I read the link Hydra Jul 2013 #102
Ok thanks for the clarification. cstanleytech Jul 2013 #103
Oh, I know France and the others don't want Snowden Hydra Jul 2013 #104
No one FORCED the aircraft to land. Their claim that they had fuel gauge problems is suspect. okaawhatever Jul 2013 #55
The aircraft had filed a flight plan, including authorization for re-fueling in Spain. Octafish Jul 2013 #60
I beg to differ. The authorization of the flight plan was for the Canary Islands. There may be a okaawhatever Jul 2013 #62
That's clearly not what happened here Major Nikon Jul 2013 #67
Freedom from persecution not freedom from prosecution. Important difference. n/t SylviaD Jul 2013 #42
The fact that people are denying that anything wrong happened Maedhros Jul 2013 #47
As the 'center' keeps moving ever rightward... Octafish Jul 2013 #68
Don't use the "F" word to describe what the NSA is doing. Maedhros Jul 2013 #111
It's pretty clear by now that Bolivia was pretty disengenuous regarding their account Major Nikon Jul 2013 #69
I wouldn't say Bolivia has been any more disingenuous that France or Spain or Austria... Maedhros Jul 2013 #105
As I said, it's either one or the other Major Nikon Jul 2013 #107
Damn you BFEE!!!...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #50
Why you find fun in the BFEE is your own affair, SidDithers. Octafish Jul 2013 #58
OMG Sid!!! greytdemocrat Jul 2013 #61
silence from the white house is bs.. I cant believe it xiamiam Jul 2013 #63
The thing exposes incompetence, all around. Octafish Jul 2013 #71
Equally disturbing is the media's dismissal of the issue markiv Jul 2013 #74
this incident is profoundly more important than the travon martin trial markiv Jul 2013 #80
It is most troubling. Octafish Jul 2013 #88
Why don't we wait for the whole story to come out before jumping to conclusions? Rstrstx Jul 2013 #77
You can wait for the official version. The facts speak for themselves. Octafish Jul 2013 #81
The FACT is that his plane was NOT forced to land. Please stop spreading misinformation. Tx4obama Jul 2013 #87
War is Peace. woo me with science Jul 2013 #92
Ignorance is Strength. Octafish Jul 2013 #97
France has apologized to Morales... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #82
When did Austria finger the CIA? Rstrstx Jul 2013 #91
And it was the US Ambassador who made the call to the Foreign Ministry Catherina Jul 2013 #117
Air Piracy lol Progressive dog Jul 2013 #79
What did Snowden do that would make the United States government act like a fascist power? Octafish Jul 2013 #83
Air Piracy and Fascist Progressive dog Jul 2013 #86
Morales shouldn't be held or diverted anywhere. That's the point of international treaties. Octafish Jul 2013 #96
Assuming a treaty was violated (one wasn't), Progressive dog Jul 2013 #112
Hey! You got that right. But you'd be wrong. Octafish Jul 2013 #113
Air piracy and fascism is now violating a tradition Progressive dog Jul 2013 #114
Morales as a head of state doesn't have to pull his aircraft over for anybody. Octafish Jul 2013 #115
Air piracy and fascism is now a traffic stop Progressive dog Jul 2013 #116
No. The traffic stop is an easy to understand allegory. Octafish Jul 2013 #119
I'm glad you understand how traffic stop is an allegory for air piracy, Progressive dog Jul 2013 #120
So, you do understand. The obtuse act was rhetorical. Octafish Jul 2013 #122
Fascism and air piracy indicates being okay with dishonestly Progressive dog Jul 2013 #123
With the exception of France, those nations all were onboard the CIA Torture Train. Octafish Jul 2013 #126
Fascism and piracy, now torture trains Progressive dog Jul 2013 #127
It's too bad you don't see the connection. Octafish Jul 2013 #129
So the US is not a democracy because Snowden and Progressive dog Jul 2013 #130
Not quite. In the USA, money trumps elections. Octafish Jul 2013 #131
Got it, money buys air piracy , torture trains, and fascism Progressive dog Jul 2013 #132
Precisely. And exactly why Morales should be respected. Octafish Jul 2013 #134
This gets funnier by the minute Progressive dog Jul 2013 #135
There is nothing funny about fascism. Octafish Jul 2013 #137
I'm not talking about humor in fascism. Progressive dog Jul 2013 #142
K&R idwiyo Jul 2013 #85
'The incident demonstrates...the Obama administration will go to any lengths to silence Snowden... Octafish Jul 2013 #98
You don't say! Universal Health Care? OMG!1!! Quick, sprinkle some holy water around to ward off the idwiyo Jul 2013 #100
I'm old enough to remember that... ReRe Jul 2013 #90
Wouldn't that be handy! idwiyo Jul 2013 #101
US (and French) Courts Have Ruled Head-of-State Immunity is Absolute Octafish Jul 2013 #109
What's a "mope"? ReRe Jul 2013 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author Catherina Jul 2013 #118
Isn't it great to see... 99Forever Jul 2013 #121
The progress on issues that have nothing to do with power and profit are nice. Octafish Jul 2013 #125
It looks like our Gov. NSA or whoever must be hiding something dreadful. JEB Jul 2013 #128
DC Madam's phone records hinted the corruption was in all three branches... Octafish Jul 2013 #136
They sure are anxious to pour the concrete on the whole Snowden affair. JEB Jul 2013 #138
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