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upaloopa

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6. You have to ask? He embarrassed the establishment!

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 04:19 PM

Jul 2013

You think he's going to be treated fairly?
I haven't said much about this issue but at 67 yrs. old I am saddened to see such willingness of younger people to accept what their government does to them.

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If Snowden's case as a whistleblower is so strong, why is he afraid to face the consequences? [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

I think he is more afraid of what the DOJ is going to do to him Rex Jul 2013 #1

Would he get the Bradley Manning treatment? The Michael Hastings treatment? Gary Webb? chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #78

Because the system is not about truth or justice. Obviously. nt Deep13 Jul 2013 #2

+1000 Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #39

Justice is based on truth. Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #51

___ hobbit709 Jul 2013 #56

I believe he also said he understood why Snowden took the path he did. Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #3

"But if Snowden is returned to the United States, Tamm said" ProSense Jul 2013 #8

Yes it was a blatant misrepresentation Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #14

Bullshit. ProSense Jul 2013 #16

"Tamm says he tried that before approaching the Times, and it didn’t work. " Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #74

Yeah, those war criminals got a fair trial! And the banksters... polichick Jul 2013 #4

Tamm is not in jail, which is why he likely made the point. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #13

That was then and this is now - Pres. Obama seems hellbent on... polichick Jul 2013 #80

Because there is no justice in our system! nt Live and Learn Jul 2013 #5

You have to ask? He embarrassed the establishment! upaloopa Jul 2013 #6

+1 nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #52

Because this administration is not fair to whistleblowers. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #7

Yeah that's why Obama signed into law the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #55

His actions speak differently. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #59

Thomas Drake? Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #62

In a nutshell. His actions don't match his words. If they did, there would be no division here. GoneFishin Jul 2013 #82

He's setting records prosecuting whistleblowers LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #69

Why do you care? Laelth Jul 2013 #9

Oh brother. ProSense Jul 2013 #10

I'll say it again. Laelth Jul 2013 #26

But the thing is the US hasn't done a whole lot Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #66

"Even the plane snafu is mired in doubt about what really happened." LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #70

if your motives for post after post attacking Snowden's character are "off limits" I suggest you Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #29

I don't care. ProSense Jul 2013 #31

You absolutely have the right to state your point of view LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #71

Please ProSense Jul 2013 #72

No, in all honesty, how many are enough? LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #73

How about ProSense Jul 2013 #76

Bradley Manning? oldhippie Jul 2013 #11

/thread Hydra Jul 2013 #24

That's his decision, not yours. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #12

You're only going to get emotional objections based on dishonest accusations with this question. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author LumosMaxima Jul 2013 #17

attack the messenger not the message, standard avoidance techinique nt msongs Jul 2013 #18

This question has been answered a million times. You obviously aren't looking for an answer. DesMoinesDem Jul 2013 #19

I'm so grateful I won't have to explain to my grandchildren ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #20

It could be that Snowden knew he had nothing railsback Jul 2013 #21

Ask Jose Padilla. Octafish Jul 2013 #22

He's a whistleblower? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #23

No. He's a victim of Just-Us. Octafish Jul 2013 #34

Did ProSense Jul 2013 #36

Do you suffer from echolalia or echopraxia? Octafish Jul 2013 #49

How can I put this: Padilla has nothing to do with Snowden. ProSense Jul 2013 #53

You mean, apart from being a victim of Just-Us. Octafish Jul 2013 #61

Your comment makes no sense. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #63

Let me repeat: Sometimes the US Department of Justice tortures the people it tries. Octafish Jul 2013 #67

Why is that guy wearing blinders and ear muffs? Rex Jul 2013 #28

Sensory Deprivation during transport is one thing. Making him LIVE IT is another... Octafish Jul 2013 #37

Torture, how sick and pathetic. Rex Jul 2013 #41

when you've walked in his shoes and faced what he is facing, you get back to me about his decision. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #25

Uhhhhh, because this is the same country that doesn't follow its own laws BlueStreak Jul 2013 #27

Zimmerman? Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #60

Good point. Our system of "justice" -- we ask why Snowden would have trepedations -- BlueStreak Jul 2013 #81

Dumbest question of the day. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #30

"Dumbest" response, certainly. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #32

Year. imo. nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #33

I didn't want to kick this embarrassment again, but it popped up so.... Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #68

. ProSense Jul 2013 #79

just one more addition to the DU Snowden "Freak Show" cali Jul 2013 #46

You kidding? davidn3600 Jul 2013 #35

What part of "they are not in jail" did you miss? Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #65

Tamm understands why, so do Binney and Drake cali Jul 2013 #38

Is this ProSense Jul 2013 #40

Because the system is corrupt obviously Matariki Jul 2013 #42

Those who big brother brands as especially heinous traitors are subject to especially harsh indepat Jul 2013 #43

Obviously, from your post... kentuck Jul 2013 #44

Why should he care about "facing consequences"? dairydog91 Jul 2013 #45

Read what John Kiriakou said about this, or Daniel Ellsberg matt819 Jul 2013 #47

Russell Tice one of the earliest major NSA Whistle blowers expalins what he learned, why he was Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #48

Maybe people like you, who want him drawn and quartered for interrupting your dream, scare him whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #50

Yawn. nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #54

Why should he? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #57

It's indicative of how far down the U.S. has fallen usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #58

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #64

Politico? Again? burnodo Jul 2013 #75

Because we no longer live in a country that respects the law or the people on point Jul 2013 #77

YAwn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz L0oniX Jul 2013 #83