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In reply to the discussion: If Snowden's case as a whistleblower is so strong, why is he afraid to face the consequences? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)49. Do you suffer from echolalia or echopraxia?
You very often repeat part of what my posts say. Then, you add a conclusion I didn't make.
Padilla and Siegelman were convicted of crimes by the same State that cannot find cause to indict the likes of Dick Cheney or George W Bush.
I believe if we were to ask Edward Snowden his thoughts about your question, he'd agree that the state has criminally mistreated Padilla and has falsely tried ("criminally tried" sounds so Orwellian) Siegelman.
I wish we could ask what Padilla thinks. Unfortunately, that is no longer possible due to his mental state.
We do know what Siegelman thinks:
Disappointed Siegelman: Obama Justice Dept. Virtually The Same As Bush DOJ
JUSTIN ELLIOTT NOVEMBER 25, 2009, 10:42 AM
When the Obama Administration argued in a filing earlier this month that the Supreme Court should not consider an appeal by Don Siegelman, the former Alabama governor wasnt surprised, even though the Obama filing maintained the Bush-era stance in Siegelmans controversial corruption case.
Theres really been no substantial change in the heart of the Department of Justice from the Bush-Rove Department of Justice, Siegelman tells TPMmuckraker in an interview.
Siegelman, a Democrat, served roughly nine months in prison after his 2006 bribery conviction. He was ordered released pending appeal in March 2008. The case, which has been dogged by allegations of politicization and prosecutorial misconduct including links to Karl Rove centers on what the government called a pay-to-play scheme in which Siegelman appointed a large donor to a state regulatory board.
Siegelman has asked the Supreme Court to consider the definition of bribery, arguing that he merely engaged in routine political transactions. But, in the Nov. 13 filing that raised Siegelmans hackles, Obamas solicitor general argued that corrupt intent had been established in the trial.
While Solicitor General Elena Kagan was appointed by Obama, Siegelman says the DOJ staffers who are giving advice and making decisions on his case are the same people who were at the department under Bush. The people who have been writing the briefs for the government are the same people who were involved in the prosecution, he says.
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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/disappointed_siegelman_obama_doj_virtually_the_sam.php
I'm disappointed, too. I had hoped that the Justice Department would lean less corporate and more individual rights, you know more "Democratic," in a Democratic administration.
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If Snowden's case as a whistleblower is so strong, why is he afraid to face the consequences? [View all]
ProSense
Jul 2013
OP
Would he get the Bradley Manning treatment? The Michael Hastings treatment? Gary Webb?
chimpymustgo
Jul 2013
#78
"Tamm says he tried that before approaching the Times, and it didn’t work. "
Mojorabbit
Jul 2013
#74
Yeah that's why Obama signed into law the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act
Life Long Dem
Jul 2013
#55
In a nutshell. His actions don't match his words. If they did, there would be no division here.
GoneFishin
Jul 2013
#82
if your motives for post after post attacking Snowden's character are "off limits" I suggest you
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2013
#29
You're only going to get emotional objections based on dishonest accusations with this question. nt
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#15
This question has been answered a million times. You obviously aren't looking for an answer.
DesMoinesDem
Jul 2013
#19
Let me repeat: Sometimes the US Department of Justice tortures the people it tries.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#67
Sensory Deprivation during transport is one thing. Making him LIVE IT is another...
Octafish
Jul 2013
#37
when you've walked in his shoes and faced what he is facing, you get back to me about his decision.
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2013
#25
Good point. Our system of "justice" -- we ask why Snowden would have trepedations --
BlueStreak
Jul 2013
#81
I didn't want to kick this embarrassment again, but it popped up so....
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2013
#68
Those who big brother brands as especially heinous traitors are subject to especially harsh
indepat
Jul 2013
#43
Russell Tice one of the earliest major NSA Whistle blowers expalins what he learned, why he was
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#48
Maybe people like you, who want him drawn and quartered for interrupting your dream, scare him
whatchamacallit
Jul 2013
#50