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In reply to the discussion: Carl Bernstein: Greenwald 'out of line' (updated) [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)6. Hey, Carl! Read my translation...Note the part about the three doctors no US report mentions.
The journalist who received the leaks from a CIA mole says there are more documents
by Alberto Armendariz, The Nation, Saturday, July 13, 2013
RIO DE JANEIRO -- Appearances deceive. With his striped swimsuit, white flip-flops, jean shirt and a big backpack, Glenn Greenwald looks like a tourist walking along the Sao Conrado in Rio de Janeiro. But his trade is that of journalist, blogger and columnist for the British daily, The Guardian, who surprised the world with the revelations about the extensive computer spy network of the United States, leaked by Edward Snowden, the ex-intelligence analyst of the National Security Agency (NSA).
"Snowden has enough information with which to cause more damage to the government of the United States in one single minute by himself than any other person has had in the entire history of the United States," Greenwald, 46, affirmed to The Nation, and who, from these latitudes, writes regularly on the issues of international security that have made him into a celebrity, the winner of various distinguished awards.
Today, this New Yorker, ex-lawyer, is in the eye of the storm. Legislators in Washington want to bring him to trial; spies of various nations look to obtain the secret information that Snowden shared with him, the heaviest, in Hong Kong and that he continues sending from Moscow via a system of encrypted electonic mail. He knows that he's being surveilled and that his conversations are monitored. This includes the theft of his laptop from his boyfriend, from their own home.
Three men wait in the lobby of the hotel Royal Tulip with credentials from a symposium on osteoporosis, a meeting of which the (hotel) concierge has no idea. Are they really doctors or are they following Greenwald? Appearances deceive.
Q: Share with us about Snowden's decision to stay in Russian while awaiting to come to Latin America?
Yes, the most important thing is not to end up in the custody of the United States, whose government has demonstrated to be extremely vengeful in punishing those who reveal inconvenient truth, and whose judicial system can't be trusted when it treats people accused of putting the nation's security at risk; the judges do all tehy can to secure convictions in those cases. He would be imprisoned immediately to pt a stop on debate he helped start, and he'd finish the rest of his days behind bars.
Q: Has Russia guaranteed his security?
There aren't many countries on planet earth that have the capacity and the desire to challenge the demands of the United States. However, Russia is one of those states and has treated him well up to now.
Q: Beyond the revelations about the functioning of the spy system in general, what additional information does Snowden have?
Snowden has enough information with which to cause more damage to the government of the United States in one single minute by himself than any other person has had in the entire history of the United States. But that is not his objective. His objective is to reveal computer programs that persons around the whole world use without knowing that they are being watched and without having consciously agreed to giving up their right to privacy. He has an enormous quantity of documents that would be most damaging to the government of the United States should they be made public.
Q: Is he afraid someone will try to kill him?
That is a possibility, although I do not think that would be of much benefit to anyone at this point. He's distributed thousands of documents and has ensured that various people around the world has his complete archive. Should something happent to him, those documents would be made public. That's his insurance police. The government of the United States should be on its knees every day praying that nothing happens to Snowden, because if something should happen to him, all the information would be revealed and that would make for their worst nightmare.
Q: Could Latin America provide a good place of refuge for Snowden?
Only certain countries, such as various countries in Latin American, China and Russia, have challenged the United States, they have noticed that the United States no longer is in a position of power that it previously had before the rest of the world, and that the rest of the nations no longer have to obey its demands as if they were under imperial orders. In Latin America there is a natural affinity for the United States, but at the same time there is a great resentment for specific historic policies made from Washington for the region. What happened with the aircraft carryign Evo Morales from Europe provoked a very strong reaction, it was as if Bolivia were treated as a colony and not as a sovereign state.
Q: Of the documents Snowden shared with you, is there much more information relating to Latin America?
Yes. For each nation that has an advanced system of communications, which is the case from Mexico to Argentina, there are documents that detail how the United States picks up information from the flow, the programs that are used to capture the transmissions, the amount of information intercepted that is accomplished each day, and much more. One form of intercepting communications is through a United States telecommunications company that has contracts with most of the nations in Latin America. The important thing will be to see what is the reaction of the different governments. I don't believe the governments of Mexico and Colombia will do much in this regard. Perhaps, however, the governments of Argentina and Venezuela will be inclined to take concrete actions.
Translated by Octafish -- Sorry if there are any mistakes. Please let me know and I'll correct.
SOURCE: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1600674-glenn-greenwald-snowden-tiene-informacion-para-causar-mas-dano
GOT some help from: http://www.spanishdict.com/translation
The great DUer Luminous Animal started an OP on the quotes and their context:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3245975
by Alberto Armendariz, The Nation, Saturday, July 13, 2013
RIO DE JANEIRO -- Appearances deceive. With his striped swimsuit, white flip-flops, jean shirt and a big backpack, Glenn Greenwald looks like a tourist walking along the Sao Conrado in Rio de Janeiro. But his trade is that of journalist, blogger and columnist for the British daily, The Guardian, who surprised the world with the revelations about the extensive computer spy network of the United States, leaked by Edward Snowden, the ex-intelligence analyst of the National Security Agency (NSA).
"Snowden has enough information with which to cause more damage to the government of the United States in one single minute by himself than any other person has had in the entire history of the United States," Greenwald, 46, affirmed to The Nation, and who, from these latitudes, writes regularly on the issues of international security that have made him into a celebrity, the winner of various distinguished awards.
Today, this New Yorker, ex-lawyer, is in the eye of the storm. Legislators in Washington want to bring him to trial; spies of various nations look to obtain the secret information that Snowden shared with him, the heaviest, in Hong Kong and that he continues sending from Moscow via a system of encrypted electonic mail. He knows that he's being surveilled and that his conversations are monitored. This includes the theft of his laptop from his boyfriend, from their own home.
Three men wait in the lobby of the hotel Royal Tulip with credentials from a symposium on osteoporosis, a meeting of which the (hotel) concierge has no idea. Are they really doctors or are they following Greenwald? Appearances deceive.
Q: Share with us about Snowden's decision to stay in Russian while awaiting to come to Latin America?
Yes, the most important thing is not to end up in the custody of the United States, whose government has demonstrated to be extremely vengeful in punishing those who reveal inconvenient truth, and whose judicial system can't be trusted when it treats people accused of putting the nation's security at risk; the judges do all tehy can to secure convictions in those cases. He would be imprisoned immediately to pt a stop on debate he helped start, and he'd finish the rest of his days behind bars.
Q: Has Russia guaranteed his security?
There aren't many countries on planet earth that have the capacity and the desire to challenge the demands of the United States. However, Russia is one of those states and has treated him well up to now.
Q: Beyond the revelations about the functioning of the spy system in general, what additional information does Snowden have?
Snowden has enough information with which to cause more damage to the government of the United States in one single minute by himself than any other person has had in the entire history of the United States. But that is not his objective. His objective is to reveal computer programs that persons around the whole world use without knowing that they are being watched and without having consciously agreed to giving up their right to privacy. He has an enormous quantity of documents that would be most damaging to the government of the United States should they be made public.
Q: Is he afraid someone will try to kill him?
That is a possibility, although I do not think that would be of much benefit to anyone at this point. He's distributed thousands of documents and has ensured that various people around the world has his complete archive. Should something happent to him, those documents would be made public. That's his insurance police. The government of the United States should be on its knees every day praying that nothing happens to Snowden, because if something should happen to him, all the information would be revealed and that would make for their worst nightmare.
Q: Could Latin America provide a good place of refuge for Snowden?
Only certain countries, such as various countries in Latin American, China and Russia, have challenged the United States, they have noticed that the United States no longer is in a position of power that it previously had before the rest of the world, and that the rest of the nations no longer have to obey its demands as if they were under imperial orders. In Latin America there is a natural affinity for the United States, but at the same time there is a great resentment for specific historic policies made from Washington for the region. What happened with the aircraft carryign Evo Morales from Europe provoked a very strong reaction, it was as if Bolivia were treated as a colony and not as a sovereign state.
Q: Of the documents Snowden shared with you, is there much more information relating to Latin America?
Yes. For each nation that has an advanced system of communications, which is the case from Mexico to Argentina, there are documents that detail how the United States picks up information from the flow, the programs that are used to capture the transmissions, the amount of information intercepted that is accomplished each day, and much more. One form of intercepting communications is through a United States telecommunications company that has contracts with most of the nations in Latin America. The important thing will be to see what is the reaction of the different governments. I don't believe the governments of Mexico and Colombia will do much in this regard. Perhaps, however, the governments of Argentina and Venezuela will be inclined to take concrete actions.
Translated by Octafish -- Sorry if there are any mistakes. Please let me know and I'll correct.
SOURCE: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1600674-glenn-greenwald-snowden-tiene-informacion-para-causar-mas-dano
GOT some help from: http://www.spanishdict.com/translation
The great DUer Luminous Animal started an OP on the quotes and their context:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3245975
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I don't see why people think reporters or journalists have to be without opinions.
Marr
Jul 2013
#43
One of the problems is that Greenwald is trying to be part of the story instead of covering it. nt
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#57
Hey, Carl! Read my translation...Note the part about the three doctors no US report mentions.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#6
"Hoooly shizz! There are three doctors in the lobby of my Rio beachfront hotel! And they're claiming
struggle4progress
Jul 2013
#39
Your kill the messenger campaign is growing....RE: your linking to previous
snappyturtle
Jul 2013
#14
K&R. He has overstepped his professional boundaries and is nothing more than a liability. nt
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#25