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JDPriestly

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24. Again, a government apologist if not agent, hijacked this thread to talk about this time,
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jul 2013

the reporter rather than about the inexcusable extent of the gathering of metadata and eavesdropping being operated by the NSA.

Hijacking does not deal with issues. It distracts. Distraction is a Republican strategy to prevent discussion of important issues.

Let's get this back on track. I posted a photo of Carter speaking from his seat in the audience at the event. Carter has not denied that he made the statements attributed to him.

Now, back to our program. What do we do about the NSA's over-reaching surveillance and collection of metadata. I differentiate the two and include both because another NSA method for changing the topic in the conversation is claiming it only collects metadata. Your metadata is your life. You don't want the government to have it.

The apologists of this program say, well, private companies have it. If they can have it, it must not be private. A private company is not going to study your metadata in order to silence your political or religious or scientific or whatever opinions. That would not be profitable for a private company.

Only the government can take the tax money you pay (whether directly or indirectly when you buy products, etc.) and use that money to fund a huge, boondoggle surveillance program that does nothing other than increase the government's information about you and therefore its power to control, influence and perhaps punish you.

That's why you can trust the phone company with your information. The shareholders would squawk and loudly, and some thriftier person out there would take over the company if they simply collected your metadata and analyzed with a billion-dollars' worth of equipment and manpower.

So, that is why we don't want the government doing this. When you ask why they are collecting all that metadata on everyone, every man, woman and child in America, you see that the purposes cannot be worth the investments being made.

Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #1
Right again, Mr. Carter Warpy Jul 2013 #2
This is not news. Everybody knows the US has no functioning democracy. nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #3
Carter is not timid when it comes to telling the truth! emsimon33 Jul 2013 #4
Agree with this. tblue Jul 2013 #5
We don't actually have a verifiable Carter quote from Der Spiegel struggle4progress Jul 2013 #6
If Der Spiegel reported Jimmy Carter's speech inaccurately, I am sure that Jimmy Carter JDPriestly Jul 2013 #7
So -- where exactly was this Georgia meeting held, what was the agenda, and who attended? struggle4progress Jul 2013 #12
Here is a picture of Carter at the meeting and an article from Die Krone. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #23
The article is just a rehash of the Spiegel article, and so jumbles together remarks Carter made struggle4progress Jul 2013 #25
You don't trust the photo? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #26
Schmitz jumbled together a CNN interview from the day before with his alleged Carter quote to create struggle4progress Jul 2013 #27
And what about Schmitz's Twitter statement? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #31
No, Carter isn't going to track every statement in the foreign press in order to make sure struggle4progress Jul 2013 #32
The reporter, Gregor Peter Schmitz, was at the event muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #13
So -- where exactly was this Georgia meeting held, what was the agenda, and who attended? struggle4progress Jul 2013 #14
You can wait for the report of the conference muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #15
There's no published agenda or list of attendees for the event in last years report struggle4progress Jul 2013 #19
The UK org *WAS* entirely separate muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #20
I don't see how we could establish they're unrelated, especially since the German organization struggle4progress Jul 2013 #21
German org: 50 years old, people like Chuck Schumer among its 'young leaders' over the years muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #22
Thanks for the interesting twitter link: given that the Spiegel headline is struggle4progress Jul 2013 #16
"He's obviously violated the laws of America, for which he's responsible," Cha Jul 2013 #8
he's is not the one using drones to execute people without charges or trial. fat chance of that msongs Jul 2013 #9
Smirk and Sneer obviously violated the laws of America Fumesucker Jul 2013 #10
I can already hear the Morans saying, "Good! This isn't a Democracy, it's a REPUBLIC!" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #11
It's not unclear lol. All they had to do was email the author who was present at the conference Catherina Jul 2013 #17
So, when will The Collective Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #18
Again, a government apologist if not agent, hijacked this thread to talk about this time, JDPriestly Jul 2013 #24
/me peeks using Chrome's Incognito window - yep, one of the propagandists at work. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #28
I don't have anyone on ignore, but I am considering putting a couple of people there. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #30
I'm so used to that from initiating articles in the I/P forum that it doesn't even faze me anymore. Purveyor Jul 2013 #29
The photo is Carter, rising at the Carter Center, to talk about unchecked political contributions struggle4progress Jul 2013 #33
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