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struggle4progress

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27. Declan McCullagh has a history of making stuff up

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:28 PM

Jul 2013

Here's a DU thread from mid-June, based on one of Declan's pieces

NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023024565

Nadler denied Declan's version of events, which was based on a thoroughly dishonest partial reading of a hearing transcript:

Jerrold Nadler Does Not Think the NSA Can Listen to U.S. Phone Calls
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023027901

The website's parent company retracted the story:

Congressman denies report claiming NSA can listen to calls without warrants
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014510665

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Jeezus. Feds tell Web firms to turn over user account passwords [View all] cali Jul 2013 OP

Declan McCullagh? The libertarian liar? Really? struggle4progress Jul 2013 #1

Do you have any evidence that he is lying about this or Cleita Jul 2013 #4

"I've certainly seen them ask for passwords" and "legal requests". randome Jul 2013 #5

Exactly 7 minutes after this was posted Aerows Jul 2013 #7

Yep. Mysterious where all that authority comes from. eom Cleita Jul 2013 #10

The same stuff gets posted here again and again. This isn't the first time I've seen this OP posted. struggle4progress Jul 2013 #30

You could check wikipedia Progressive dog Jul 2013 #71

Is that the standard now? All accusations against the government are true, until proven to be lies? Silent3 Jul 2013 #18

Since you are defending the accuser, I assume you Cleita Jul 2013 #19

You do make many assumptions, apparently. Silent3 Jul 2013 #21

You can feel free to apologize to him at any time, cuz I put some up info downthread for you: struggle4progress Jul 2013 #31

Absolutely not, no one has given me evidence that this particular story is a lie yet. Cleita Jul 2013 #35

Translation: "I don't care if the reporter has a history of lying, as long as his stories enable me struggle4progress Jul 2013 #38

You say he has a history of lying. I have yet to see it. Cleita Jul 2013 #40

It would be unwise to assume all news stories are true unless proven lies first treestar Jul 2013 #74

STRUGGLE4PROGRESS! You are referencing your OWN POST accusing this guy of lying! Th1onein Jul 2013 #57

Huh? I pointed you to a post downthread, which gives you three links: struggle4progress Jul 2013 #61

Damn, I'm sorry. I didn't see that. Th1onein Jul 2013 #75

Declan McCullagh has a history of making stuff up struggle4progress Jul 2013 #27

This is not proof that he lied on this particular story. Cleita Jul 2013 #33

"Frankly, your last source I would use as bird cage liner if I had a bird. " OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #50

Interesting that when Nadler first came out and made some rhett o rick Jul 2013 #39

And you know his political affiliation Aerows Jul 2013 #6

He's the one who had to retract his the entire premise of his first NSA article. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #8

Do you have a link for that? Aerows Jul 2013 #9

Do you remember his little lying article about Nadler, not that long ago, in which struggle4progress Jul 2013 #20

Again, Congressman didn't deny anything. caseymoz Jul 2013 #45

If you read the transcript of the hearing, beyond the quote lifted by McCullagh, it becomes entirely struggle4progress Jul 2013 #51

Well, I hate to be a stickler caseymoz Jul 2013 #55

The Congressman didn't retract: the cnet story was wrong, and znet said "We're pulling the plug struggle4progress Jul 2013 #59

You know, I've heard this caseymoz Jul 2013 #65

I know it because I looked into him after reading some of his other lying bullshit recently: struggle4progress Jul 2013 #23

Fair enough Aerows Jul 2013 #26

+1000 Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #13

-1001 Cleita Jul 2013 #14

Climate denying girlfriend beater. joshcryer Jul 2013 #17

What a rude post. Is that the best you can do? No substance just Sid's rude emoticon. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #32

I provided links in struggle4progress Jul 2013 #34

You jumped right into the thread in post #1 with a rude post. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #41

You're missing the big picture here. The libertarian gang a few years back cooked up the idea that struggle4progress Jul 2013 #43

If you dont agree with the article, then why dont you just say so instead rhett o rick Jul 2013 #44

The reporter's history of misrepresentation is relevant struggle4progress Jul 2013 #52

That's your subjective opinion. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #63

That's all they got these days: ad hominem attacks. Th1onein Jul 2013 #58

It's a good plan caseymoz Jul 2013 #48

Obama's record on civil liberties is an enormous improvement over that of the Bush II, Bush I, struggle4progress Jul 2013 #62

Good grief, where do you come up with this schtuff?? Does the WH send you rhett o rick Jul 2013 #64

Let's address the issue with an ad hominem attack. Think how brilliant we will appear! JDPriestly Jul 2013 #36

A history of dishonesty affects the reporter's credibility struggle4progress Jul 2013 #37

The fact you can't attack the actions instead of the person says so much about you. Cleita Jul 2013 #42

You're an ideologue, Cleita. Showing you facts doesn't produce a careful response, in which you struggle4progress Jul 2013 #47

Good. You don't mind people disagreeing with you. Cleita Jul 2013 #53

I'm not voting for anybody without the sense to boldly condemn this. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #2

Don't believe everything you read on the World Wide Web. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #3

But...then we can't believe you which means... randome Jul 2013 #12

I had assumed this was the case, Quantess Jul 2013 #11

Not without a court-ordered, specific, individualized warrant dickthegrouch Jul 2013 #15

Did you simply gloss over the term "legal requests" in the article? randome Jul 2013 #22

Defense attorneys will love this if the feds try to prosecute based kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #16

No one is going to prosecute on this. Cleita Jul 2013 #24

And then it will be called unreasonable search and seizure and the kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #25

That implies they'd admit to having done it. JoeyT Jul 2013 #70

That's an incredibly inefficient way of getting at user's data. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #28

The article actually says that the government makes "legal requests". JoePhilly Jul 2013 #67

The telcos will be more than happy to oblige. lpbk2713 Jul 2013 #29

And this shit continues..... blackspade Jul 2013 #46

Sure why not. Rex Jul 2013 #49

It's quite remarkable... OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #54

Notice the use of the words "demands" and "requests" in the article. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #69

Strange days. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #56

Those internet companies should go public with this. The people are already demonstrating sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #60

Whose passwords? bunnies Jul 2013 #66

i hope this isnt true Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #68

But... But... But.... burnodo Jul 2013 #72

This is the guy who made up the Al Gore Progressive dog Jul 2013 #73

More hair on fire bullshit railsback Jul 2013 #76

So did this story get picked up? Or was it relegated only to conspiracy sites as I predicted? randome Jul 2013 #77