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TOR Compromised, 'Secure' Mailer Servers Shutting Down...What It Means? [View all] MineralMan Aug 2013 OP

Here's the info on the Tor exploit ... RKP5637 Aug 2013 #1

So not regular Firefox users? I'm on version 22.0 hlthe2b Aug 2013 #2

I don't think it's an issue for anyone not using TOR. MineralMan Aug 2013 #4

OK. That sort of covers the exploit's coverage, but MineralMan Aug 2013 #3

This covers it in a lot more detail ... gov. versus Anonymous, this certainly leans toward gov. RKP5637 Aug 2013 #5

There have been updates ProSense Aug 2013 #6

Thanks, ProSense! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #8

Still pretty unclear, really. MineralMan Aug 2013 #12

That's one of the sources I read earlier. MineralMan Aug 2013 #9

Kiddie porn? Give me a break. Th1onein Aug 2013 #51

This isn't about child porn. It's using child porn to make sure all communications are known to dkf Aug 2013 #7

Is not shutting down child porn a worthwhile effort? MineralMan Aug 2013 #10

Sure, but do it in a legal manner and don't disrupt others who are not involved in child porn. dkf Aug 2013 #16

OK. It's not clear to me that anything illegal was done, though. MineralMan Aug 2013 #18

OK, in simple English. Explain to me what the Darknet is. It sounds rather sinister. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #27

Yikes. I'm still learning about it. MineralMan Aug 2013 #36

Anyone who doesn't want to be spied on can use TOR. dkf Aug 2013 #31

Indeed. Or so you think. MineralMan Aug 2013 #33

Shouldn't someone examine the legality of inserting tracking software though? dkf Aug 2013 #35

FISA only deals with international stuff. MineralMan Aug 2013 #38

That's where you are mistaken...the data is being collected under FISA dkf Aug 2013 #90

Is it? I haven't seen anything that indicates that at all. MineralMan Aug 2013 #92

What don't you believe? That the blanket warrants are approved in the FISA court? dkf Aug 2013 #102

Did you really just say that? Did you really just fucking say that? Th1onein Aug 2013 #65

Did you have to ask that question. It's right there in black and white. MineralMan Aug 2013 #67

Duh. It's called a "rhetorical question." Th1onein Aug 2013 #70

If it's between consenting adults (drugs, sex, porn) then leave it alone. TalkingDog Aug 2013 #45

It is totally legal to web crawl and find all available sites. gvstn Aug 2013 #26

I expect that targeting would be restricted in any court order or MineralMan Aug 2013 #34

We the people require LE to use a warrant JimDandy Aug 2013 #25

Do you know that no warrant exists for this? MineralMan Aug 2013 #29

Yeah, THAT'S right, MineralMan. Th1onein Aug 2013 #63

I've seen no information regarding the existence of warrants or that they MineralMan Aug 2013 #64

They EXPLOITED an opening in the system. What is it about that that you don't get? Th1onein Aug 2013 #69

+1. There's been spin about the Lavabit shutdown as well. napoleon_in_rags Aug 2013 #104

Bitcoins HolyMoley Aug 2013 #83

Yep, this is about child porn, and Snowden's girlfriend was a pole dancer 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #11

You know, I'm not seeing the pattern you're talking about. MineralMan Aug 2013 #13

Right, you're not all that interested in suppositions and accusations, but........ Th1onein Aug 2013 #76

The FBI's history of using warrants to do their investigations MineralMan Aug 2013 #80

They EXPLOITED a flaw in the system. That, alone, should tell you they don't have a warrant. Th1onein Aug 2013 #96

I see the pattern as well. And my addition skills are pretty good. Zorra Aug 2013 #59

I'll give my very vague understanding for what it is worth. gvstn Aug 2013 #14

Thanks for your information. It coincided with what I have MineralMan Aug 2013 #15

That's government malware and viruses thank you. dkf Aug 2013 #17

OK. So far, it's all been speculation. Do you have actual evidence of MineralMan Aug 2013 #19

They tracked it to Reston Virginia. In addition how stupid do you think we are? dkf Aug 2013 #20

Apparently, that has now come into question. MineralMan Aug 2013 #22

They need legal probable cause. Beats me how they get that by malicious code. dkf Aug 2013 #24

Child pornogrphy and pedophilia are found at the very highest levels of the world's powers: govt; WinkyDink Aug 2013 #54

I suppose so. MineralMan Aug 2013 #56

Tor is its own OS. gvstn Aug 2013 #21

It could be the NSA or FBI or another agency that MineralMan Aug 2013 #23

I don't think finding the site owners is hard. gvstn Aug 2013 #32

The methods to access the "darknet" require nothing sneaky at all tkmorris Aug 2013 #44

Thre's another aspect to Darknet dickthegrouch Aug 2013 #37

Ackk! gvstn Aug 2013 #46

This reads like the history of tank projectiles verse tank armor. mick063 Aug 2013 #28

Yes. I assume that child pornography is always an issue MineralMan Aug 2013 #30

Of course it does. But RIGHTS are, or should be, eternal tkmorris Aug 2013 #53

Thank you, tkmorris, for saying it so much better than I ever could. Th1onein Aug 2013 #84

It's a deeply-encrypted area wherein criminal activities are safely conducted. Drug sales, child- WinkyDink Aug 2013 #39

That's what I've gathered from today's research. MineralMan Aug 2013 #49

it was create as a haven for their dissidents, not ours... nebenaube Aug 2013 #103

It's funny watching you squirm. ret5hd Aug 2013 #40

I'm not squirming. I never squirm. MineralMan Aug 2013 #41

It is, isn't it? Th1onein Aug 2013 #86

See my #41. MineralMan Aug 2013 #91

Seen it. Not convinced. Good luck convincing others. Th1onein Aug 2013 #95

It means I'll continue using my Gmail account. millennialmax Aug 2013 #42

I've been using Yahoo mail for years. MineralMan Aug 2013 #43

I use yahoo mail too. gvstn Aug 2013 #47

Yep. I'm more terrified of hackers stealing my identity than anything else online. millennialmax Aug 2013 #50

I do all financial transactions on secure websites that are MineralMan Aug 2013 #52

I've never had a problem with Yahoo gvstn Aug 2013 #57

Google is pretty invasive at times, I suppose. MineralMan Aug 2013 #58

Yes, but I think this is what this whole topic is about. gvstn Aug 2013 #62

My father, who is now 88 years old, told me when I was MineralMan Aug 2013 #66

Watch this Lavabit scenario. gvstn Aug 2013 #93

I think the majority of the users of sites like Lavabit millennialmax Aug 2013 #48

I have no idea about that at all. MineralMan Aug 2013 #55

I've checked out TOR from time to time... whttevrr Aug 2013 #60

I used it briefly during the Iranian uprising Warpy Aug 2013 #73

In a way, TOR's desire to provide greater, more accessible anonymity, HolyMoley Aug 2013 #74

But this particular incident is troubling... whttevrr Aug 2013 #78

This why we can't have nice things. HolyMoley Aug 2013 #89

LOL! whttevrr Aug 2013 #97

Yup. We all use the Internet from some device. MineralMan Aug 2013 #75

The only anonymous entry would be through second hand equipment... whttevrr Aug 2013 #85

OK. I don't need anonymous internet access. MineralMan Aug 2013 #87

The issue with tor is an architectural weakness that has been acknowledged for some time Recursion Aug 2013 #61

There's that too... whttevrr Aug 2013 #72

It was only a matter of time before they compromised Tor Warpy Aug 2013 #68

There you go. You're clearly thinking about it in practical terms. MineralMan Aug 2013 #77

It means the Privacy PIRATES want EVERYONES Digital Comm usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #71

Yah, OK. MineralMan Aug 2013 #81

That's the most important issue to understand usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #88

Darknet Hidden Wiki - Have to be On The Tor Network To Access cantbeserious Aug 2013 #79

Thank you. I'll go read those links. MineralMan Aug 2013 #82

Easy To Access The Tor Network - Download The Tor Browser Bundle cantbeserious Aug 2013 #94

More Info On The Tor Network Compromise cantbeserious Aug 2013 #98

The Matrix - A Key Article Posted At The Darknet Wiki Page - Addresses Motivations cantbeserious Aug 2013 #105

I see the govt. wasting too much money for too little gain steve2470 Aug 2013 #99

The 64 Bit Version Of Tor Is Pretty Snappy On A High Speed Internet Connection cantbeserious Aug 2013 #100

ok I will remember that, thanks nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #101