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Showing Original Post only (View all)Krugman: Rand Paul "actually has no idea that the deficit is falling; it’s quite possible that [View all]
does Cantor."
A Poll Id Like To See
Jonathan Chait finds Rand Paul talking about the evils of running a trillion-dollar deficit every year which, as it happens, is not at all what were doing; the deficit is at around $600 billion and falling fast. This follows on Eric Cantors talk about growing deficits, when deficits are in fact shrinking.
I think its pretty clear that Paul actually has no idea that the deficit is falling; its quite possible that neither does Cantor. The whole incident reminds me of 2011, when supposedly well-informed candidates like Tim Pawlenty went on about soaring government employment during a time of unprecedented cuts in the public payroll. Once youre inside the closed conservative information loop, you know lots of things that arent so.
What Im curious about, however, is what the public knows. Larry Bartels likes to cite a 1996 poll in which voters were asked whether the deficit had increased or decreased under Clinton (it had, in fact, fallen sharply). A plurality of voters and a heavy majority of Republicans thought the deficit had gone up.
So Id love to see a comparable poll now asking, say, what has happened to the deficit since 2009. (It has actually been cut more than 50 percent). My bet is that it would look like that 1996 poll.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/09/a-poll-id-like-to-see/
I know that the "closed conservative information loop" makes republicans stupid, but I assumed that guys like Paul and Cantor knew the truth they just prefer to spout fear and emotion to their base. Can Krugman be right that they have themselves been brainwashed by the "closed conservative information loop"?
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Krugman: Rand Paul "actually has no idea that the deficit is falling; it’s quite possible that [View all]
pampango
Aug 2013
OP
Right! The term originated withTeddy Roosevelt, using "bully" in the olf sense of something
maddiemom
Aug 2013
#31
The GOP is so used to repeating their worn out talking points and apparently their staff does not
Thinkingabout
Aug 2013
#2
No politician like Paul or Cantor thinks of anything before they think about
A Simple Game
Aug 2013
#29
Rand Paul is a RACIST TEA PARTY THUG who doesn't know anything but HATE
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Aug 2013
#10
It is really getting to the point that Republicans are saying things that are so divorced from....
Taitertots
Aug 2013
#24
Some of those people are bright. I know some. But they are dramatically deluded, mostly
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#28
The republican base doesn't look for facts. Republican voters prefer to hear hot words, regardless
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#27