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madinmaryland

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62. Hillary 45 will win in 2016 and 2020. Michelle Obama will be elected in 2024 and 2028...

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 05:13 PM

Aug 2013

and then Chelsea Clinton in 2032 and 2036!!

G4A!!

Now pardon me, while I determine the status of the beer and travel money that I am owed!!

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Why I am hesitant to vote for Hillary for President in 2016? [View all] kentuck Aug 2013 OP

Or any woman? Demit Aug 2013 #1

At this time... kentuck Aug 2013 #4

Elizabeth Warren? KamaAina Aug 2013 #57

+ infinity! cascadiance Aug 2013 #61

She's my candidate! Scuba Aug 2013 #131

Warren/Wyden 2016 would get my vote. Coyotl Aug 2013 #137

Old Story Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2013 #139

Even Bush played the outsider against the Beltway. It is a necessity today Coyotl Aug 2013 #141

There's a difference between playing the outsider and being the outsider Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2013 #146

Erm....what? Oakenshield Aug 2013 #107

She's a former Republican with a background in banking. MelungeonWoman Aug 2013 #115

No offense... Oakenshield Aug 2013 #118

No offense taken. MelungeonWoman Aug 2013 #122

I like Dean too. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #152

I'm also a "former Republican". The fact she left that party is a plus for her. Scuba Aug 2013 #132

Tell that to us Hillary supporters. We're sick of hearing..... Little Star Aug 2013 #140

It sounds like you don't want anyone in the cabinet who could make any headway Recursion Aug 2013 #2

So I guess the only solution is to vote for someone who hasn't any experience in any area of lumpy Aug 2013 #14

No, his solution would to be to vote for more 3rd Way, DLC, DINO that is working so well now. RC Aug 2013 #63

C'mon, that's really lame. How about Krugman? He'd be a nice start. Scuba Aug 2013 #133

That's not a reason to pre-emptively be against her. We don't know who she would appoint because CTyankee Aug 2013 #3

I have not seen any indication that she would be an independent thinker... kentuck Aug 2013 #9

Well, she's never been president so we just don't know, do we? CTyankee Aug 2013 #17

We disagree. kentuck Aug 2013 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #81

and this is documented how? CTyankee Aug 2013 #90

Where did you pull that from, a RW site? Beacool Aug 2013 #101

. Little Star Aug 2013 #144

Have you ever seen any that she wouldn't be an independent thinker?..... Little Star Aug 2013 #32

My point is my opinion. kentuck Aug 2013 #35

Okie dokey. What ever "my point is my opinion" means. Little Star Aug 2013 #43

You asked? kentuck Aug 2013 #52

Kentuck, would you be averse to voting for a black candidate for president as well ? lumpy Aug 2013 #5

I voted for Obama twice. kentuck Aug 2013 #120

so don't get your hesitation about 'any' woman. elleng Aug 2013 #6

Elizabeth Warren might be the exception? kentuck Aug 2013 #12

PERHAPS!!! elleng Aug 2013 #15

But... kentuck Aug 2013 #21

top echelon being whom? elleng Aug 2013 #23

Hillary, Gillibrand, Napolitano... kentuck Aug 2013 #25

According to new Quinnipiac poll she's third only to Chris Christie and Hillary Clinton now... cascadiance Aug 2013 #67

Why not a Clinton/Warren ticket? theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #142

Many others here have said the same thing... cascadiance Aug 2013 #149

As first lady she sure did think independently regarding health care.... Little Star Aug 2013 #46

She voted for Bush's tragic war and has never admitted it was an enormous error, to put it mildly. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #123

That's a commendable thought, Sabrina... kentuck Aug 2013 #125

Yes, if I support a Democrat for the WH, I am NOT supporting a Republican Cabinet. This is something sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #128

I couldn't agree with you more. And I think more women in TOP Cabinet offices such as SoS and DoJ CTyankee Aug 2013 #134

It is strange that there has still never been a woman in the WH and even more strange, that it is sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #150

Any woman? bravenak Aug 2013 #7

Plus the chicks get all crazy once a month, right? NightWatcher Aug 2013 #8

Better read up on the human body, kinda sounding like Todd Akin in your remark. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #99

that and they have super powers to control the weather during menopause NightWatcher Aug 2013 #113

You still need to do some research, you missed again. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #119

She obviously has been influenced by both, but I'm more concerned that she or any other FIRST female hlthe2b Aug 2013 #10

"or any woman" sufrommich Aug 2013 #11

heh heh, we have one! quinnox Aug 2013 #16

D'oh! So we do. sufrommich Aug 2013 #22

You have ruled out any woman Egnever Aug 2013 #13

Edited... kentuck Aug 2013 #18

I definitely agree that things need to be changed. Initech Aug 2013 #20

Why do I get the feeling that we are starting to see some male discomfort here with the idea of a CTyankee Aug 2013 #24

I think you are mistaken to call it "sexism"? kentuck Aug 2013 #29

Ok, deal. I want to be wrong, as I said. CTyankee Aug 2013 #31

Another woman that has been mentioned by the MSM? kentuck Aug 2013 #40

Is there a male mentioned by the MSM that you would support? CTyankee Aug 2013 #45

To be clear. kentuck Aug 2013 #49

Of those mentioned, I would prefer a Warren/O'Malley ticket. kentuck Aug 2013 #121

I hope you were thinking the same thing about Barack Obama back in 2008: would he have the courage CTyankee Aug 2013 #135

Maybe if you stopped saying "woman candidate" people wouldn't be mistaking you. Demit Aug 2013 #50

Because we are talking about "firsts".. kentuck Aug 2013 #53

No, you're talking about your dislike of Hillary Clinton Demit Aug 2013 #80

I'm talking of my dislike of Hillary as a candidate... kentuck Aug 2013 #88

You're not even sure what your point is. "Woman candidates", "firsts," now just plain Demit Aug 2013 #89

Don't get me wrong I am all for having a woman president. Initech Aug 2013 #30

I agree. kentuck Aug 2013 #33

That's what you should have said to begin with because that's obviously what you were getting at.... Little Star Aug 2013 #54

Just for clarification, what does " I am hesitant to vote for Hillary" mean to you? kentuck Aug 2013 #59

Well..... Little Star Aug 2013 #84

Any other woman on your list for president? CTyankee Aug 2013 #34

Good question, I may have to do some research. Initech Aug 2013 #98

She's just another 3rd Way, DLC, New Democrat, Centrist politician. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #26

+1000 forestpath Aug 2013 #96

She's a hawk. broiles Aug 2013 #27

Yes, she is... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #124

I barely knew who Barack Obama was before 2008. Just Saying Aug 2013 #28

Considering the usual DLC people she hired to run her 08 campaign DJ13 Aug 2013 #36

/facepalm JTFrog Aug 2013 #37

I figured it would be misintepreted... kentuck Aug 2013 #44

I think she'd be worse than Obama. Atman Aug 2013 #38

So what? Our candidate will never get the support of the GOP folks anyway. CTyankee Aug 2013 #48

I don't agree. Atman Aug 2013 #74

Oh, please, white RW men won't vote for a woman? Boo hoo. They're not going to vote for a Dem CTyankee Aug 2013 #76

It's not ridiculous at all. Atman Aug 2013 #82

So what? Are you going to throw up your hands and give up? CTyankee Aug 2013 #92

And STILL miss the point! Atman Aug 2013 #94

My goodness, calm down! Please. CTyankee Aug 2013 #97

I never liked Hillary prior to Obama's Presidency. DrewFlorida Aug 2013 #39

. Little Star Aug 2013 #145

Beats me, but it sounds like you've mostly decided not to. lamp_shade Aug 2013 #41

Unicorn 2016! FSogol Aug 2013 #42

My big concern with Hillary is the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama-Clinton link AndyA Aug 2013 #47

Did you say that in 2008 about Barack Obama? CTyankee Aug 2013 #55

No, Barack Obama was new and is the only thing breaking the Bush-Clinton link. n/t AndyA Aug 2013 #56

what exacxtly WAS the Bush/Clinton link? I never heard of it... CTyankee Aug 2013 #58

Perhaps chain would have been a better word AndyA Aug 2013 #65

Then I guess it's up to Hillary to break the chain in a BIG way: she'll be the first WOMAN! CTyankee Aug 2013 #69

Still same family, and she did play a role in Bill's years in the White House AndyA Aug 2013 #72

Forget Nancy Reagan. She wasn't President, simple as that. CTyankee Aug 2013 #73

Did you notice the winking smilie? AndyA Aug 2013 #77

I'm willing to give her that chance...she earned her chance as SoS and U.S. Senator. CTyankee Aug 2013 #78

A BIGGER way would be to have Warren as president... the first WOMAN who's not a corporatist too!! cascadiance Aug 2013 #75

OK, if Warren is the candidate I'll work my heart out for her. I love that woman... CTyankee Aug 2013 #79

Some think she might be too "liberal" to attract voters outside the party. I think she'd surprise.. cascadiance Aug 2013 #83

Yes. I think you are right! CTyankee Aug 2013 #91

I love Warren also, she's my senator and I am proud of her... Little Star Aug 2013 #86

I am going to support her and hope that she wins the nomination. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #51

I already voted for her for President! In 2008 I voted for her in our Primary, along with my husband CTyankee Aug 2013 #60

Glad to hear it. I voted for her in the senate twice. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #66

good for you! I'd do the same if I were in NY, not CT...but we've got Blumenthal and CTyankee Aug 2013 #70

Yes two great men. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #71

Hillary 45 will win in 2016 and 2020. Michelle Obama will be elected in 2024 and 2028... madinmaryland Aug 2013 #62

Nicely done DainBramaged Aug 2013 #64

You know, as annoying as those two could be.. madinmaryland Aug 2013 #68

+1. and many experiences.... FSogol Aug 2013 #100

Honestly... RudynJack Aug 2013 #85

I understand where you're going..that you feel it's "too early"...BUT... KoKo Aug 2013 #87

The Hillary-phobia here is amazing. RudynJack Aug 2013 #102

Hey...Sorry...I don't watch Cable News...I watch International News... KoKo Aug 2013 #106

You got me on what? RudynJack Aug 2013 #114

I want to vote for a woman for President so much, but there's just flat-out no way Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #93

She'll win, and she'll take us closer. gulliver Aug 2013 #95

Because you are entitled to you own opinion liberal N proud Aug 2013 #103

I did not try to make my post an attack on Hillary... kentuck Aug 2013 #104

I didn't see it as one either. liberal N proud Aug 2013 #112

The 2016 election is more than 3 years away. Beacool Aug 2013 #105

My guess would be that there are as many posts praising Hillary as there are against her? kentuck Aug 2013 #108

Here??????????? Beacool Aug 2013 #109

Nah...we all love the Clintons...but nothing in a Democracy should be KoKo Aug 2013 #110

Liz Warren is my first choice. mick063 Aug 2013 #111

1) She is more liberal on economic policy than Bill. 2) BootinUp Aug 2013 #116

Every candidate for President will need tons of cash (sadly). Amonester Aug 2013 #117

because you don't really like Democrats. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #126

I've fallen and I can't get up... kentuck Aug 2013 #129

you have relegated your vote to the dustbin of history. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #147

I am a woman, I agree with you peacebird Aug 2013 #127

There are only two effective choices right now customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #130

Grammar police. OP is NOT a question. Coyotl Aug 2013 #136

It's about time we heard from a voice of reason! (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2013 #138

I am a woman and I agree with you Marrah_G Aug 2013 #143

She will be Obama II Safetykitten Aug 2013 #148

Some will recognize this woman as being the first woman President (or functional President). AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #151