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cascadiance

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67. According to new Quinnipiac poll she's third only to Chris Christie and Hillary Clinton now...

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 05:18 PM

Aug 2013

... and this is way early in the 2016 race... If Warren's anywhere on the radar at this point, which this shows that she is very much so, then that's half the battle for her, since if she takes on Wall Street, etc. her biggest battle will be getting campaign money and press visibility that's aligned with corporate serving candidates. I like her the most as a possibility for a non-corporate serving candidate at this point, as many here on DU do as well... All of the other women you mention here are second tier to Clinton and Warren at this point, with the possible exception of Gillibrand here who is fifth in this poll behind those mentioned as well as Barack Obama coming in fourth.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/08/06/why-you-shouldnt-underestimate-elizabeth-warren/

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Why I am hesitant to vote for Hillary for President in 2016? [View all] kentuck Aug 2013 OP

Or any woman? Demit Aug 2013 #1

At this time... kentuck Aug 2013 #4

Elizabeth Warren? KamaAina Aug 2013 #57

+ infinity! cascadiance Aug 2013 #61

She's my candidate! Scuba Aug 2013 #131

Warren/Wyden 2016 would get my vote. Coyotl Aug 2013 #137

Old Story Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2013 #139

Even Bush played the outsider against the Beltway. It is a necessity today Coyotl Aug 2013 #141

There's a difference between playing the outsider and being the outsider Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2013 #146

Erm....what? Oakenshield Aug 2013 #107

She's a former Republican with a background in banking. MelungeonWoman Aug 2013 #115

No offense... Oakenshield Aug 2013 #118

No offense taken. MelungeonWoman Aug 2013 #122

I like Dean too. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #152

I'm also a "former Republican". The fact she left that party is a plus for her. Scuba Aug 2013 #132

Tell that to us Hillary supporters. We're sick of hearing..... Little Star Aug 2013 #140

It sounds like you don't want anyone in the cabinet who could make any headway Recursion Aug 2013 #2

So I guess the only solution is to vote for someone who hasn't any experience in any area of lumpy Aug 2013 #14

No, his solution would to be to vote for more 3rd Way, DLC, DINO that is working so well now. RC Aug 2013 #63

C'mon, that's really lame. How about Krugman? He'd be a nice start. Scuba Aug 2013 #133

That's not a reason to pre-emptively be against her. We don't know who she would appoint because CTyankee Aug 2013 #3

I have not seen any indication that she would be an independent thinker... kentuck Aug 2013 #9

Well, she's never been president so we just don't know, do we? CTyankee Aug 2013 #17

We disagree. kentuck Aug 2013 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #81

and this is documented how? CTyankee Aug 2013 #90

Where did you pull that from, a RW site? Beacool Aug 2013 #101

. Little Star Aug 2013 #144

Have you ever seen any that she wouldn't be an independent thinker?..... Little Star Aug 2013 #32

My point is my opinion. kentuck Aug 2013 #35

Okie dokey. What ever "my point is my opinion" means. Little Star Aug 2013 #43

You asked? kentuck Aug 2013 #52

Kentuck, would you be averse to voting for a black candidate for president as well ? lumpy Aug 2013 #5

I voted for Obama twice. kentuck Aug 2013 #120

so don't get your hesitation about 'any' woman. elleng Aug 2013 #6

Elizabeth Warren might be the exception? kentuck Aug 2013 #12

PERHAPS!!! elleng Aug 2013 #15

But... kentuck Aug 2013 #21

top echelon being whom? elleng Aug 2013 #23

Hillary, Gillibrand, Napolitano... kentuck Aug 2013 #25

According to new Quinnipiac poll she's third only to Chris Christie and Hillary Clinton now... cascadiance Aug 2013 #67

Why not a Clinton/Warren ticket? theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #142

Many others here have said the same thing... cascadiance Aug 2013 #149

As first lady she sure did think independently regarding health care.... Little Star Aug 2013 #46

She voted for Bush's tragic war and has never admitted it was an enormous error, to put it mildly. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #123

That's a commendable thought, Sabrina... kentuck Aug 2013 #125

Yes, if I support a Democrat for the WH, I am NOT supporting a Republican Cabinet. This is something sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #128

I couldn't agree with you more. And I think more women in TOP Cabinet offices such as SoS and DoJ CTyankee Aug 2013 #134

It is strange that there has still never been a woman in the WH and even more strange, that it is sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #150

Any woman? bravenak Aug 2013 #7

Plus the chicks get all crazy once a month, right? NightWatcher Aug 2013 #8

Better read up on the human body, kinda sounding like Todd Akin in your remark. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #99

that and they have super powers to control the weather during menopause NightWatcher Aug 2013 #113

You still need to do some research, you missed again. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #119

She obviously has been influenced by both, but I'm more concerned that she or any other FIRST female hlthe2b Aug 2013 #10

"or any woman" sufrommich Aug 2013 #11

heh heh, we have one! quinnox Aug 2013 #16

D'oh! So we do. sufrommich Aug 2013 #22

You have ruled out any woman Egnever Aug 2013 #13

Edited... kentuck Aug 2013 #18

I definitely agree that things need to be changed. Initech Aug 2013 #20

Why do I get the feeling that we are starting to see some male discomfort here with the idea of a CTyankee Aug 2013 #24

I think you are mistaken to call it "sexism"? kentuck Aug 2013 #29

Ok, deal. I want to be wrong, as I said. CTyankee Aug 2013 #31

Another woman that has been mentioned by the MSM? kentuck Aug 2013 #40

Is there a male mentioned by the MSM that you would support? CTyankee Aug 2013 #45

To be clear. kentuck Aug 2013 #49

Of those mentioned, I would prefer a Warren/O'Malley ticket. kentuck Aug 2013 #121

I hope you were thinking the same thing about Barack Obama back in 2008: would he have the courage CTyankee Aug 2013 #135

Maybe if you stopped saying "woman candidate" people wouldn't be mistaking you. Demit Aug 2013 #50

Because we are talking about "firsts".. kentuck Aug 2013 #53

No, you're talking about your dislike of Hillary Clinton Demit Aug 2013 #80

I'm talking of my dislike of Hillary as a candidate... kentuck Aug 2013 #88

You're not even sure what your point is. "Woman candidates", "firsts," now just plain Demit Aug 2013 #89

Don't get me wrong I am all for having a woman president. Initech Aug 2013 #30

I agree. kentuck Aug 2013 #33

That's what you should have said to begin with because that's obviously what you were getting at.... Little Star Aug 2013 #54

Just for clarification, what does " I am hesitant to vote for Hillary" mean to you? kentuck Aug 2013 #59

Well..... Little Star Aug 2013 #84

Any other woman on your list for president? CTyankee Aug 2013 #34

Good question, I may have to do some research. Initech Aug 2013 #98

She's just another 3rd Way, DLC, New Democrat, Centrist politician. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #26

+1000 forestpath Aug 2013 #96

She's a hawk. broiles Aug 2013 #27

Yes, she is... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #124

I barely knew who Barack Obama was before 2008. Just Saying Aug 2013 #28

Considering the usual DLC people she hired to run her 08 campaign DJ13 Aug 2013 #36

/facepalm JTFrog Aug 2013 #37

I figured it would be misintepreted... kentuck Aug 2013 #44

I think she'd be worse than Obama. Atman Aug 2013 #38

So what? Our candidate will never get the support of the GOP folks anyway. CTyankee Aug 2013 #48

I don't agree. Atman Aug 2013 #74

Oh, please, white RW men won't vote for a woman? Boo hoo. They're not going to vote for a Dem CTyankee Aug 2013 #76

It's not ridiculous at all. Atman Aug 2013 #82

So what? Are you going to throw up your hands and give up? CTyankee Aug 2013 #92

And STILL miss the point! Atman Aug 2013 #94

My goodness, calm down! Please. CTyankee Aug 2013 #97

I never liked Hillary prior to Obama's Presidency. DrewFlorida Aug 2013 #39

. Little Star Aug 2013 #145

Beats me, but it sounds like you've mostly decided not to. lamp_shade Aug 2013 #41

Unicorn 2016! FSogol Aug 2013 #42

My big concern with Hillary is the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama-Clinton link AndyA Aug 2013 #47

Did you say that in 2008 about Barack Obama? CTyankee Aug 2013 #55

No, Barack Obama was new and is the only thing breaking the Bush-Clinton link. n/t AndyA Aug 2013 #56

what exacxtly WAS the Bush/Clinton link? I never heard of it... CTyankee Aug 2013 #58

Perhaps chain would have been a better word AndyA Aug 2013 #65

Then I guess it's up to Hillary to break the chain in a BIG way: she'll be the first WOMAN! CTyankee Aug 2013 #69

Still same family, and she did play a role in Bill's years in the White House AndyA Aug 2013 #72

Forget Nancy Reagan. She wasn't President, simple as that. CTyankee Aug 2013 #73

Did you notice the winking smilie? AndyA Aug 2013 #77

I'm willing to give her that chance...she earned her chance as SoS and U.S. Senator. CTyankee Aug 2013 #78

A BIGGER way would be to have Warren as president... the first WOMAN who's not a corporatist too!! cascadiance Aug 2013 #75

OK, if Warren is the candidate I'll work my heart out for her. I love that woman... CTyankee Aug 2013 #79

Some think she might be too "liberal" to attract voters outside the party. I think she'd surprise.. cascadiance Aug 2013 #83

Yes. I think you are right! CTyankee Aug 2013 #91

I love Warren also, she's my senator and I am proud of her... Little Star Aug 2013 #86

I am going to support her and hope that she wins the nomination. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #51

I already voted for her for President! In 2008 I voted for her in our Primary, along with my husband CTyankee Aug 2013 #60

Glad to hear it. I voted for her in the senate twice. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #66

good for you! I'd do the same if I were in NY, not CT...but we've got Blumenthal and CTyankee Aug 2013 #70

Yes two great men. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #71

Hillary 45 will win in 2016 and 2020. Michelle Obama will be elected in 2024 and 2028... madinmaryland Aug 2013 #62

Nicely done DainBramaged Aug 2013 #64

You know, as annoying as those two could be.. madinmaryland Aug 2013 #68

+1. and many experiences.... FSogol Aug 2013 #100

Honestly... RudynJack Aug 2013 #85

I understand where you're going..that you feel it's "too early"...BUT... KoKo Aug 2013 #87

The Hillary-phobia here is amazing. RudynJack Aug 2013 #102

Hey...Sorry...I don't watch Cable News...I watch International News... KoKo Aug 2013 #106

You got me on what? RudynJack Aug 2013 #114

I want to vote for a woman for President so much, but there's just flat-out no way Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #93

She'll win, and she'll take us closer. gulliver Aug 2013 #95

Because you are entitled to you own opinion liberal N proud Aug 2013 #103

I did not try to make my post an attack on Hillary... kentuck Aug 2013 #104

I didn't see it as one either. liberal N proud Aug 2013 #112

The 2016 election is more than 3 years away. Beacool Aug 2013 #105

My guess would be that there are as many posts praising Hillary as there are against her? kentuck Aug 2013 #108

Here??????????? Beacool Aug 2013 #109

Nah...we all love the Clintons...but nothing in a Democracy should be KoKo Aug 2013 #110

Liz Warren is my first choice. mick063 Aug 2013 #111

1) She is more liberal on economic policy than Bill. 2) BootinUp Aug 2013 #116

Every candidate for President will need tons of cash (sadly). Amonester Aug 2013 #117

because you don't really like Democrats. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #126

I've fallen and I can't get up... kentuck Aug 2013 #129

you have relegated your vote to the dustbin of history. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #147

I am a woman, I agree with you peacebird Aug 2013 #127

There are only two effective choices right now customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #130

Grammar police. OP is NOT a question. Coyotl Aug 2013 #136

It's about time we heard from a voice of reason! (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2013 #138

I am a woman and I agree with you Marrah_G Aug 2013 #143

She will be Obama II Safetykitten Aug 2013 #148

Some will recognize this woman as being the first woman President (or functional President). AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #151