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Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
25. Oh Come On Now...
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:38 PM
Aug 2013

Just because something is not perfect does not mean it isn't good. I wish we had a public option, or preferably a single payer system, but we don't... yet. Vermont is working toward it and once they get the ball rolling it is reasonable to assume other states will follow.


Coverage has been expanded. Health care is considered a right even though some people are still denied that right.


As for your skepticism about Pres. Obama (I noticed you forgot the title, but I will add it for you) and the Democrats:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

^snip^


On December 23, the Senate voted 60–39 to end debate on the bill (a cloture vote to end the filibuster by opponents). The bill then passed by a vote of 60–39 on December 24, 2009, with all Democrats and two independents voting for, and all Republicans voting against except one (Jim Bunning (R-KY), not voting).[219]



The remaining obstacle was a pivotal group of pro-life Democrats, initially reluctant to support the bill, led by Congressman Bart Stupak. The group found the possibility of federal funding for abortion would be substantive enough to warrant opposition. The Senate bill had not included language that satisfied their abortion concerns, but they could not include additional such language in the reconciliation bill, as it would be outside the scope of the process with its budgetary limits. Instead, President Obama issued Executive Order 13535, reaffirming the principles in the Hyde Amendment.[233] This concession won the support of Stupak and members of his group and assured passage of the bill.[230][234] The House passed the Senate bill with a vote of 219 to 212 on March 21, 2010, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against it.[235] (The following day, Republicans introduced legislation to repeal the bill).[236] Obama signed the ACA (the Senate bill) into law on March 23, 2010.[237] The amendment bill (the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act) was also passed by the House on March 21, then by the Senate via reconciliation on March 25, and finally signed by President Obama on March 30.






Let's try to stay somewhere close to reality.

The perfect summary Motown_Johnny Aug 2013 #1
Good God. LWolf Aug 2013 #4
What a ProSense Aug 2013 #5
Real change? Yes. LWolf Aug 2013 #7
"Real change? Yes." ProSense Aug 2013 #10
To repeat the parts you dismissed: LWolf Aug 2013 #19
They weren't "dismissed." I didn't address them. ProSense Aug 2013 #21
So you don't "dismiss" things. LWolf Aug 2013 #22
It does, ProSense Aug 2013 #23
Replacing the pre-existing condition obstacles LWolf Aug 2013 #30
Prosense got you on that one Motown_Johnny Aug 2013 #26
I'm not sure why LWolf Aug 2013 #31
I agree totally that what we have now is severely broken. Companies are nickel and diming you Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2013 #36
Oh Come On Now... Motown_Johnny Aug 2013 #25
Good would be LWolf Aug 2013 #29
Marriage Equality and Solar Panels earthside Aug 2013 #2
In 50 years he will be known as the guy who finally got health care reformed and on the right track Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #3
It reminds me ProSense Aug 2013 #6
AND... BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #9
Yes! ProSense Aug 2013 #12
Changing lives for the better. freshwest Aug 2013 #14
Nice! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #24
Don't hold your breath. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #16
BENGHAZI !!!!11!!!! BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #8
More deadly capital letters: NSA! TSA! DEA! EPA! SSA! FDA! TVA! ACA! freshwest Aug 2013 #28
He is turning out to be one of our truly great presidents. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #11
Can't have any facts right now those things ruin Paulian stoking uponit7771 Aug 2013 #13
Yes, he manages to "evolve" once the risk has passed. polichick Aug 2013 #15
He overcame the "kill the bill" efforts on health care reform. ProSense Aug 2013 #17
I wish there was a rule in Congress Rex Aug 2013 #18
K&R, The President is working hard for everyone Whisp Aug 2013 #20
First I've heard of this: President Obama Installs Solar Panels On White House Cha Aug 2013 #27
Yup, good stuff. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #32
The last six months have not been very good for the President cali Aug 2013 #33
To consummate bashers, Obama has NEVER had a good minute not less month. These people... uponit7771 Aug 2013 #34
Well, who cares about social issues that will impact people's lives when ProSense Aug 2013 #38
LOL! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #37
Healthcare.gov Thanks B Calm Aug 2013 #35
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