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59. If the truth was being spread by those concerned about surveillance this would be over in an instant

Sun Aug 25, 2013, 06:00 PM

Aug 2013

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How many ranting about surveillance have seen Issa yelling and screaming about it? I have yet to see any response from him on this getting a hearing. He has not made anything stick so far and the GOP would love to find something. He would be the one to convince. I think even Issa can see the Constitution is being followed on this. Perhaps the group who will be hurt is the anti-spying group since real traction has happened because they did not come to the table with clean hands.

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Will the Democratic Party be hurt by the NSA scandal? [View all] kentuck Aug 2013 OP

The Democratic Party deserves it. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #1

+10 eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #4

It won't blow over, if only because Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #2

That's pretty astute analysis. Progressives did try to break with Obama HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #92

Yes. tblue Aug 2013 #3

Caution for the future WouldbeCentrist Aug 2013 #37

It depends on which Democratic Party you're discussing. MineralMan Aug 2013 #5

No. Just Saying Aug 2013 #6

“The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men”. ~Plato Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #9

Apathy? Evil? Just Saying Aug 2013 #16

Can you offer any support for your assertion that most Americans are not paying any attention? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #40

First off, the question here was whether the NSA scandal would hurt Democrats. Just Saying Aug 2013 #46

Here ya go! If this ain't confirmation, I don't know what is. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #102

As part of the Occupy Movement, I am very well aware of the financial status of the majority of Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #50

Dude Phlem Aug 2013 #81

is that what you think or what you hope? Skittles Aug 2013 #85

I hear a lot of people talking about it. Maybe it depends on where you are. Autumn Aug 2013 #11

They are in my neck of the woods. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #32

It depends on what they do from here. Autumn Aug 2013 #7

^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ Coyotl Aug 2013 #58

+1. There's still time to get on the right side of this issue, but not much. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #75

The democratic party needs to present a candidate people can TRUST will not say "hope and change" Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #8

Guess you better get busy finding one. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #88

With electronic voting machines without paper trails, does it matter? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #10

The NSA operates under the purview of the Dept of Defense. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #14

We should be working to make sure our votes are counted. Just Saying Aug 2013 #17

I'm not ready to stop observing the loss of democracy through electronic voting. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #22

My Senators are Wyden and Merkley, no electornic voting here and every vote is on paper Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #42

Putting words in my mouth again? Just Saying Aug 2013 #48

Oregon has no 'voting machines' no polling places and our paper trail is so thick Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #44

Yes, it will hurt them. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #12

They're turning a lot of people off LittleBlue Aug 2013 #13

Well now, there is the way to hasten what you fear. Skidmore Aug 2013 #15

Hasten public anger is the goal mick063 Aug 2013 #18

"Shock and awe" is a pretty right wing way of undertaking policy and war. Skidmore Aug 2013 #55

Slow death or prolonged death LittleBlue Aug 2013 #19

Good work! You're doing exactly what the 1% want you to do. jeff47 Aug 2013 #60

Sorry, Jeff, but with the bunch of elitist sharks who rule in DC... Amonester Aug 2013 #82

Alone, no jeff47 Aug 2013 #87

You've made yourself irrelevant leftynyc Aug 2013 #95

I was over at freerepublic the last couple of days. grasswire Aug 2013 #20

The only problem with that is... Mnpaul Aug 2013 #29

We're talking about a scandal where the leaked documents don't back up the charges. jeff47 Aug 2013 #56

I don't know which is more unlikely: controlling their culture crazies or winter is coming Aug 2013 #76

All that matters is if a sizeable portion view it that way. mick063 Aug 2013 #21

Phony scandal ..... oldhippie Aug 2013 #23

Benghazi is phony. The IRS "scandal" is phony. This is real, and it's winter is coming Aug 2013 #53

"What" is real? Please describe it... because I am calling you out as not knowing anything factual. DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #72

Whoa. Not just a river in Egypt. Have a nice life. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #74

I already have a paranoid-free life, how about you? DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #90

Do some people want the Democratic Party to be hurt? Whisp Aug 2013 #24

The current version, yes. mick063 Aug 2013 #26

and what if the GOP destroys all faith for years to come? Whisp Aug 2013 #33

The greatest threat to the GOP is GOP power. mick063 Aug 2013 #36

Nobody I know is looking for perfection?? kentuck Aug 2013 #47

"Short term pain for a better, more representative party to emerge". You guys have been waiting for Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #105

Just watch what the Republicans are doing with the conspiracies railsback Aug 2013 #25

I doubt it, but only because... devils chaplain Aug 2013 #27

Yes. Despite the CYA statements and laughable committees. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #28

Obama's losing 15 percentage points of young people over NSA.. grasswire Aug 2013 #30

Feet to the fire. Alas, he doesn't mind being burned. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #31

How old is that poll? According to daily tracking, he's on the upswing with democratic constituen- Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #106

five days ago, USA Today - Pew grasswire Aug 2013 #107

Sounds too much like that CNN poll that showed a huge drop, & no other poll ever backed it up. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #109

My Concern: Will Democracy in America be destroyed by the unconstitutional NSA Surveillance? panzerfaust Aug 2013 #34

+1 840high Aug 2013 #38

+1. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #49

YES! Unless they LEAD reining in and shutdown of the police state on point Aug 2013 #35

If it does, I think it will be with turnout Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #39

It won't hurt the Democrats when compared with the Republicans. BlueCheese Aug 2013 #41

This will hurt, along with Obama's other betrayals. forestpath Aug 2013 #43

Third Way types will have a struggle as will Republicans, but the Democrats I vote for will thrive Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #45

If nothing but "mouthing" in a committee without any changes happens they will definitely be harmed. Lint Head Aug 2013 #51

More paranoia drivel from DUers.... DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #52

Wow - you've spent time making up pictures to attack DU muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #94

are you intendng the Bernie Sanders avatar to be sarcasm? Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #96

Not just will hurt the Democratic Party, already has. 99Forever Aug 2013 #54

Yes, the libertarians are doing great pushing the scandal jeff47 Aug 2013 #57

If the truth was being spread by those concerned about surveillance this would be over in an instant Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #59

Why should it be hurt? Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #61

And many Democrats who were against it when Bush did it City Lights Aug 2013 #68

By many Repugs, you mean limpbaugh, fauxkers & co? Amonester Aug 2013 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #62

+1 woo me with science Aug 2013 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #70

^^^^THIS^^^^^ Autumn Aug 2013 #65

It's the internet trolls who post about the NSA without facts that hurt everyone DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #66

How could you say it is nothing?? kentuck Aug 2013 #67

Do you get angry when you go to the airport and have to take off your shoes? DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #71

BS kentuck Aug 2013 #73

....red-neck logic... facts don't count... easily scared by "things we can't talk about" DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #91

Very accurate post. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #89

I have seen no facts on the NSA from you. The Democratic leaders should Autumn Aug 2013 #69

^^^ This (x) 1000 ^^^ Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #104

This one? kentuck Aug 2013 #108

Yes. JVS Aug 2013 #63

It should hurt them, but it probably wont hurt much DJ13 Aug 2013 #77

Republicans like the idea of a strong NSA... Goes hand in hand with strong admiration for the the busterbrown Aug 2013 #78

It will get worse before it gets better skippy66 Aug 2013 #79

It's going to decide who controls the parties of the future. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #83

It will only hurt us if we are associated with Snowden/Greenwald backers. gulliver Aug 2013 #84

YES. The only pol getting my money is Wyden. Th1onein Aug 2013 #86

No! ONLY because the Republican Party is not going to push the issue - And I really cannot see the Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #93

Well aren't most of those spies GOP lovers? RedCloud Aug 2013 #97

I don't think it will hurt them in the next election. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #98

Tea bagging residents that have run up their post counts in the gungeon... kentuck Aug 2013 #99

There's a lot of ground to cover before 2014 Hydra Aug 2013 #100

And the spineless jellyfish are already setting the stage to blame it on the "liberals"... kentuck Aug 2013 #101

It's all a game to them Hydra Aug 2013 #103