Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Sickening malaise Aug 2013 #1
Yep. Recall congress. What is the Goddamn rush? Little Star Aug 2013 #17
Is he holding up any vials of chemical icky stuff? leftstreet Aug 2013 #2
Here's an empty vial for you (warning pix of dead children): KittyWampus Aug 2013 #5
Did Syria do those, or the US? leftstreet Aug 2013 #6
oh you mean like when we sold biological weapons to Iraq and they used them on their own citizens an boomer55 Aug 2013 #8
Shhh leftstreet Aug 2013 #10
best post ever infinity elehhhhna Aug 2013 #95
lol Love it. ctsnowman Aug 2013 #148
Its way easier to keep your hands tied iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #20
Except TimeToGo Aug 2013 #58
Oh. Then never mind. elehhhhna Aug 2013 #96
I suspect that the local Kurds may have minded a tad. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #103
+1 No kidding Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #15
Syria NEVER attacked us! Rockyj Aug 2013 #165
Now if these beautiful children here were charred remains... Celefin Aug 2013 #19
I dont think it's because it's "boring" robbob Aug 2013 #48
It's also marketing... *sigh* and of course you're right. Celefin Aug 2013 #62
Follow the money. pangaia Aug 2013 #114
Yes, it's interesting that the photos of the children in Fallujah were never shown sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #166
I'll remember that you, KittyWampus, Enthusiast Aug 2013 #29
I am against bombing Syria. So remember that Enthusiast. When you approve of comparing an empty vial KittyWampus Aug 2013 #36
It's possible, yes, but I prefer to acknowledge the similarities and sense of deja vu. elehhhhna Aug 2013 #97
this times 1000 qazplm Aug 2013 #179
You mean it might affect you? treestar Aug 2013 #100
No. It's not going to effect me. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #106
Why does it encourage military action? treestar Aug 2013 #109
Never address me. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #132
too bad. Public message board. A photo of something that actually happened treestar Aug 2013 #149
I couldn't tell if it was Fallujah, or the slaughtere of the Iraqis, many of them children sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #201
Frankly, I find it sickening that you keep posting these pictures to make your argument n/t Jeroen Aug 2013 #33
Better to look at the picture of those dead babies than Skidmore Aug 2013 #38
Did I pretend that the attack was some sort of minor dusting? Jeroen Aug 2013 #43
Incinerated you say? atreides1 Aug 2013 #65
And we do Carolina Aug 2013 #122
They will never show us the dead babies WE create when we strike AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #68
How many American children die every year because of our policies on Heather MC Aug 2013 #140
They said the same thing about Bosnia in the 90s shotten99 Aug 2013 #142
"Conflicts" is a pleasant word for war Heather MC Aug 2013 #144
I agree, but honestly believe this isn't going to be a big deal on our part shotten99 Sep 2013 #200
I find it sick that some DU'ers claim this didn't happen, it's false flag or it's akin to Powell's KittyWampus Aug 2013 #46
No one is denying this horrible attack Jeroen Aug 2013 #57
+1000000 Jamastiene Sep 2013 #203
We're not claiming the attack didn't happen. Maedhros Aug 2013 #60
+ one million Celefin Aug 2013 #64
DU'ers are saying Kerry's speech = Colin Powell's vial. THAT IT IS A FACT. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #72
They are both overstating their case Maedhros Aug 2013 #75
In what way is Kerry overstating? Just Saying Aug 2013 #79
Conclusive evidence has not been presented that shows Assad is responspible. Maedhros Aug 2013 #93
Yes some DUers make that equation Celefin Aug 2013 #78
Some DU'ers are not claiming this did not happen. RC Aug 2013 #71
Is beating someone to death because they are gay more heinous that just beating someone to death? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #73
Scatter shot. RC Aug 2013 #82
there were a *few* posts saying the "dead kids" were drugged for the photo. dionysus Aug 2013 #126
What, is this sort of claim suddenly a problem? Scootaloo Aug 2013 #162
sorry man, i've never seen it before.. i stay out of I/P usually. dionysus Aug 2013 #192
I don't blame you Scootaloo Aug 2013 #193
cool. dionysus Aug 2013 #198
Exactly! ctsnowman Aug 2013 #155
+1 n/t IL Lib Aug 2013 #107
I find it sick that you're rooting for an attack that will likely kill many more people. NealK Sep 2013 #204
And that warning does what we one has already scrolled down the ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #59
I guess that means we must kill. Right? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #88
...and HOW many children did WE kill in Iraq? bvar22 Aug 2013 #94
as if you really cared fascisthunter Aug 2013 #128
Good thing our cruise missiles and drones are child safe. /nt Marr Aug 2013 #139
Assad us a lightweight when it comes to killing babies. MyNameGoesHere Aug 2013 #147
I'm sure you will post pics of the innocent dead from a US attack too. L0oniX Aug 2013 #170
But where is the incubator cord outlet? Warning...we're not idiots. libdem4life Aug 2013 #194
glad I don't have TV FirstLight Aug 2013 #3
Kinda feel a war/distraction is needed so they can fast-track/pass TPP which is a stillwaiting Aug 2013 #4
^This, what about the previous deaths before, this so called chemical attack? JRLeft Aug 2013 #9
+1: Distraction is exactly what it is Ocelot Aug 2013 #41
So "they" just got on the phone with their good buddy, Skidmore Aug 2013 #92
Ah yes... 99Forever Aug 2013 #154
Sometimes shadows are just shadows. Skidmore Aug 2013 #159
Having watched the reality of what ... 99Forever Aug 2013 #167
Wow! That's a whole lot of assuming you are doing about someone Skidmore Aug 2013 #174
My previous post updated.. 99Forever Aug 2013 #180
Very creative way to name call. Skidmore Aug 2013 #181
Excuse me? 99Forever Aug 2013 #185
new boss same as the old boss. n/t boomer55 Aug 2013 #7
They are all pod people now G_j Aug 2013 #11
Secretary John Kerry: No plan for war. ProSense Aug 2013 #12
Horseshit. His entire speech was a call to war 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #14
I agree. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #18
That just made me feel really, really old. libdem4life Aug 2013 #195
No it wasn't n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #23
people hear what they want to hear. spanone Aug 2013 #22
When did people get the idea that bombing a sovereign country's military isn't an act of war? Celefin Aug 2013 #26
We live in a time when words can be redefined zeemike Aug 2013 #53
No plan for peace, either. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #45
That IS the plan ctsnowman Aug 2013 #151
Donald Rumsfeld: "It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months" woo me with science Aug 2013 #121
serious question SwampG8r Aug 2013 #141
"no matter how cynical I get, I can't keep up" phantom power Aug 2013 #13
Truer words... n/t Hydra Aug 2013 #16
+1000 Celefin Aug 2013 #21
+1. How I feel too. I thought I was too cynical but they continue to astound me n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #39
In the context of international politics, there is no such thing as "too cynical." n/t Raksha Aug 2013 #118
+1. "I'm an idealist without illusions" - JFK Catherina Aug 2013 #188
I guess that would describe me too - "an idealist without illusions." Raksha Aug 2013 #196
Oh, you mean the story where the father was saying his son died in a tunnel Catherina Aug 2013 #197
Yes, that's the story I mean. I've been doing what I can to spread the word on Facebook. n/t Raksha Sep 2013 #199
+10000 n/t NRaleighLiberal Aug 2013 #51
this is the problem with our govt lying to us questionseverything Aug 2013 #24
You are right on all counts. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #206
I remember '04 MisterP Aug 2013 #25
Are you sure Powell worked 8 yrs for a diplomatic solution in Iraq first? blm Aug 2013 #27
Solution to WHAT in Iraq? MNBrewer Aug 2013 #50
To whatever they said Saddam was doing in Iraq. blm Aug 2013 #52
SO what "solution" has been pursued in Syria? for 8 years.... MNBrewer Aug 2013 #54
My gawd...you mean you NEVER KNEW THIS? blm Aug 2013 #77
Assad was never under threat of attack by the US MNBrewer Aug 2013 #83
You're wrong. You don't know anything about Syria blm Aug 2013 #116
No MNBrewer Aug 2013 #138
You're apparently incapable of comprehending what blm Aug 2013 #161
utter codswallop inspired by your deep devotion to Kerry. cali Aug 2013 #177
utter ignorance inspired by those too lazy to study US-Syria issues blm Aug 2013 #182
Yeah what is disgusting is thinking treestar Aug 2013 #101
Agreed. That argument was first used by W's supporters, but it works as well here. delrem Aug 2013 #120
Well we were right about Iraq Carolina Aug 2013 #123
I don't believe that whatever we did 40 or more years ago treestar Aug 2013 #150
"Whatever we did 40 years ago..." Carolina Aug 2013 #160
So we let Assad get away with this? treestar Aug 2013 #164
Oh puhleeze Carolina Aug 2013 #189
We have not released such a chemical weapons attack as that treestar Aug 2013 #190
Really? Carolina Aug 2013 #191
"So we let Assad get away with this?" NealK Sep 2013 #205
All while Hillary was leading a "Friends of Syria" campaign. uh huh... delrem Aug 2013 #119
Hillary was one of the war hawks Kerry was angering blm Aug 2013 #156
well she ain't angry now. delrem Aug 2013 #176
She will be if they don't have a full-scale war. blm Aug 2013 #183
wow! and here is kerry to the rescue... tomp Aug 2013 #146
Your depiction is inaccurate. blm Aug 2013 #158
kinda weak on the follow through there, eh? nt tomp Sep 2013 #202
Touché tomp Carolina Aug 2013 #163
Our security agency is paying the salaries of "Free" Syrian Army fighters... mojowork_n Aug 2013 #28
Powell was arguing for an inavsion and occupation in a country where no one was asking for any help. RDANGELO Aug 2013 #30
very few lives will be "saved" by our actions MNBrewer Aug 2013 #85
Looking for someone with integrity? Has Al Franken weighed in yet on Syria? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #31
"Franken now says Obama has authority to launch air strikes without congressional dflprincess Aug 2013 #125
Oh good. First he supported the NSA's spying, then wanted to reform it after getting push-back from AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #184
You can save the seeds. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #32
A well thought out and considered response. geckosfeet Aug 2013 #34
"Speaking about" and calling for war are not the same things 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #56
I did not hear anyone call for war. He said "a response". geckosfeet Aug 2013 #108
Why is everyone being so subtle? brooklynite Aug 2013 #35
I still curse the day I went to work for his campaign. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #37
I hear ya Carolina Aug 2013 #124
Yep, deja fucking vu whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #40
Kerry did not lie, but he did not answer why bombing would make things better--either for the people flpoljunkie Aug 2013 #42
To save the Syrians, we must bomb the shit out of them. Efilroft Sul Aug 2013 #47
Like Iran? RC Aug 2013 #80
If Israel wanted to be a good neighbor and promote peace JEB Aug 2013 #112
Like here, or any other country that wants to help in such an operation. Efilroft Sul Aug 2013 #129
RC, whoops! Efilroft Sul Aug 2013 #137
dear friends - please disabuse yourselves of the notion the dem party is some sort of peace party. KG Aug 2013 #44
I suppose it's another "slam dunk" MNBrewer Aug 2013 #49
I hate to piss in everyone's cheerios peace is a great idea it's a noble idea Arcanetrance Aug 2013 #55
the whole world should take a stand Skittles Aug 2013 #63
It shouldn't be but we can't even get the UN to unite in condemnation Arcanetrance Aug 2013 #69
Balderdash. 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #67
I'm not ignoring anything and my outrage isn't false Arcanetrance Aug 2013 #70
Peace is nice, in "theory", but sometimes a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do... MNBrewer Aug 2013 #86
Wow yeah cause that's what I said Arcanetrance Aug 2013 #89
Is there ample proof? MNBrewer Aug 2013 #91
"Ample Proof" ???!!!! bvar22 Aug 2013 #99
Don't be leaving the women out of this... L0oniX Aug 2013 #171
+1 treestar Aug 2013 #102
Just like the Iraq invasion, they don't want an investigation of the gas thing to get in the way The_Casual_Observer Aug 2013 #61
It's like the movie Ground Hog day. sarcasmo Aug 2013 #66
+1 RC Aug 2013 #84
Now all presidents are George Bush markiv Aug 2013 #74
'Who wants to be the last man, to die for interventionism'? markiv Aug 2013 #76
Stand down in Syria polynomial Aug 2013 #81
1 Party, 2 Faces blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #87
Shock and Awe after the 4 day initial bombing of Baghdad is illustrated by the same bunch trying to DhhD Aug 2013 #90
The "smoking gun/mushroom cloud" approach was evident. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #98
K&R forestpath Aug 2013 #104
K&R Thank you. idwiyo Aug 2013 #105
Even though I am against striking Syria, I totally disagree with this characterization. stevenleser Aug 2013 #110
How low have the mighty fallen. JEB Aug 2013 #111
Low. Low. 840high Aug 2013 #117
I only heard him on the radio pangaia Aug 2013 #113
K&R woo me with science Aug 2013 #115
We don't need to do this Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #127
Kerry has been a real problem. David__77 Aug 2013 #130
IMO he is still wimpy and is trying to make himself look worthy of the SOS title. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #173
right. because there's not a dime's worth of difference between Al Gore and George Bush. right. greenman3610 Aug 2013 #131
Do Obama and Kerry think they have to appear like hardcases? DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #133
Where is Baby Jesus? You do realize Kerry's speech is underthematrix Aug 2013 #157
Not sure where you're getting this DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #186
Just remember that Colin Powell voted for President Obama. Twice Melynn Aug 2013 #134
OMG! I just posted this, and it was before I read this. I owe you a beer LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #135
Missed Kerry's Speech gussmith Aug 2013 #136
This is a conflation! shotten99 Aug 2013 #143
My sentiments exactly Not Sure Aug 2013 #145
Well, we got bullshit Obama=Bush comparisons so I guess this is a natural progression. great white snark Aug 2013 #152
I see most ctsnowman Aug 2013 #153
And yes I agree with 1-old-man tiredtoo Aug 2013 #168
I get your point, but it's not the same. dsharp88 Aug 2013 #169
Your blind faith in Kerry, just because he has a D after his name, is touching, but very misplaced. Beer Swiller Aug 2013 #175
That person provided facts for his reasoning and disagrees with Kerry. That is not blind faith. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #178
See my #110. Mischaracterizations never help a cause in the long run. We don't need to do it to stevenleser Aug 2013 #172
Except for the fact that what Kerry says very likely happened -- very likely happened karynnj Aug 2013 #187
It should have been deeply embarrassing for him. What a shame. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #207
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Watching John Kerry give ...»Reply #5