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Octafish

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4. I'd bet you're in the minority.

Wed Sep 4, 2013, 05:02 PM

Sep 2013

Over the years, I've ask at various dinner tables about the Gulf of Tonkin -- friends, family, professional.

Reckoning off the top of my head, about one in 20 people knew what happened -- if anything, less for the young set.

I've never heard the flawed NSA intel linked between the Gulf of Tonkin and the Iraq War mentioned on television. How many teachers bring this up in the classroom?

Thank goodness for the John Prados and the National Security Archive at GWU:

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/index.htm

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NSA bosses feared releasing Gulf of Tonkin intel would draw ''uncomfortable comparisons'' with Iraq [View all] Octafish Sep 2013 OP

It always should be peace first, Octafish. Always. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #1

Absolutely peace first. When we're the strongest nation in history... Octafish Sep 2013 #3

I absolutely love it when you "get all didactic"! It spreads knowledge every time. Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #20

Warfuckingmongers malaise Sep 2013 #26

JFK upon hearing news his friend Lumumba had been assassinated... Octafish Sep 2013 #27

Any smart rational person already knows that the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident Drale Sep 2013 #2

I'd bet you're in the minority. Octafish Sep 2013 #4

I am one teacher who brings this up in class. iemitsu Sep 2013 #19

I think many knew it was a lie. malthaussen Sep 2013 #28

Yes, that's why it was called an "illegal war" from the get go. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #6

As a loyal American, I must point out how you consistently "forget" truedelphi Sep 2013 #5

NSA boss has got more power than any one person has held in US history... Octafish Sep 2013 #8

Much of that is not old stuff for me. Thanks for all the info - truedelphi Sep 2013 #9

God forbid the NSA is 'uncomfortable' felix_numinous Sep 2013 #7

Are you Robert McKee? Octafish Sep 2013 #21

No, thank you though felix_numinous Sep 2013 #25

Goddamn I thought this was pro-war satire at first. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #10

I thought it was an Onion article. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #12

Wink...wink...wink Supersedeas Sep 2013 #31

I thought this might have been the Onion.. awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #11

BFEE script plays Groundhog Day without the happy ending. Octafish Sep 2013 #22

Savak was trained felix_numinous Sep 2013 #29

"Analysts Made 'SIGINT fit the claim'" sounds a lot like: johnnyreb Sep 2013 #13

Lock Them Up. Octafish Sep 2013 #32

K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #14

Media, Propaganda and Vietnam Octafish Sep 2013 #33

As it fucking should gopiscrap Sep 2013 #15

I have been corrected here on DU for stating WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2013 #18

Nixon pulled a Bush on Eisenhower... Octafish Sep 2013 #35

Trust me I have pictures of me as a 7 year old gopiscrap Sep 2013 #38

From John Pilger... Octafish Sep 2013 #34

Hey no problem, my honor gopiscrap Sep 2013 #37

Nixon was ''supposed'' to succeed Eisenhower and Vietnam... Octafish Sep 2013 #39

Interesting how the NSA is central to suffragette Sep 2013 #16

Secret Government is un-American Octafish Sep 2013 #30

Yes, those who control the secrets get their way suffragette Sep 2013 #42

I could write a book coldbeer Sep 2013 #17

More from John Pilger... Octafish Sep 2013 #36

I find it interesting that they called it "shoe" Aerows Sep 2013 #41

From Senator Leahy's speech against the IWR on the eve of the vote: cali Sep 2013 #23

Thank you, cali! Here's another voice we sorely miss today... Octafish Sep 2013 #40

The NSA's Panopticon society Ichingcarpenter Sep 2013 #24

K&R + more truth to fuel those "uncomfortable comparisons" bobthedrummer Sep 2013 #43