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In reply to the discussion: TIRED of INEQUALITY? Get used to it. Things look like they're only gonna get worse. [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)95. Orwell could never imagine the wealth involved.
The disparity in its distribution, yeah. Check out the facts courtsey Emmanuel Saez, UC Berkeley:
Striking it Richer:
The Evolution of Top Incomes in the United States
(Updated with 2012 preliminary estimates)
Emmanuel Saez, UC Berkeley
September 3, 2013
Whats new for recent years?
2009-2012: Uneven recovery from the Great Recession
From 2009 to 2012, average real income per family grew modestly by
6.0% (Table 1). Most of the gains happened in the last year when average
incomes grew by 4.6% from 2011 to 2012.
However, the gains were very uneven. Top 1% incomes grew by
31.4% while bottom 99% incomes grew only by 0.4% from 2009 to 2012.
Hence, the top 1% captured 95% of the income gains in the first three years
of the recovery. From 2009 to 2010, top 1% grew fast and then stagnated
from 2010 to 2011. Bottom 99% stagnated both from 2009 to 2010 and from
2010 to 2011. In 2012, top 1% incomes increased sharply by 19.6% while
bottom 99% incomes grew only by 1.0%. In sum, top 1% incomes are close to
full recovery while bottom 99% incomes have hardly started to recover.
Note that 2012 statistics are based on preliminary projections and will
be updated in January 2014 when more complete statistics become available.
Note also that part of the surge of top 1% incomes in 2012 could be due to
income retiming to take advantage of the lower top tax rates in 2012 relative
to 2013 and after.
1
Retiming should be most prevalent for realized capital
gains as individuals have great flexibility in the timing of capital gains
realizations. However, series for income excluding realized capital gains also
show a very sharp increase (Figure 1), suggesting that retiming likely explains
only part of the surge in top 1% incomes in 2012. Retiming of income should
produce a dip in top reported incomes in 2013. Hence, statistics for 2013 will
show how important retiming was in the surge in top incomes from 2011 to
2012.
Overall, these results suggest that the Great Recession has only
depressed top income shares temporarily and will not undo any of the
dramatic increase in top income shares that has taken place since the 1970s.
Indeed, the top decile income share in 2012 is equal to 50.4%, the highest
ever since 1917 when the series start (Figure 1).
Looking further ahead, based on the US historical record, falls in
income concentration due to economic downturns are temporary unless
drastic regulation and tax policy changes are implemented and prevent
income concentration from bouncing back. Such policy changes took place
after the Great Depression during the New Deal and permanently reduced
income concentration until the 1970s (Figures 2, 3). In contrast, recent
downturns, such as the 2001 recession, lead to only very temporary drops in
income concentration (Figures 2, 3).
The policy changes that took place coming out of the Great Recession
(financial regulation and top tax rate increase in 2013) are not negligible but
they are modest relative to the policy changes that took place coming out of
the Great Depression. Therefore, it seems unlikely that US income
concentration will fall much in the coming years.
PDF of complete report: http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/saez-UStopincomes-2012.pdf
I know it's only been five years, but when are we gonna get that New New Deal I heard about back in '08?
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TIRED of INEQUALITY? Get used to it. Things look like they're only gonna get worse. [View all]
Octafish
Sep 2013
OP
Jeff Greene(who ran for Senate in Florida in 2010) put it in politically incorrect terms.
Dawson Leery
Sep 2013
#1
After 30+ years, I officially quit listening to NPR news for good about a week ago
corkhead
Sep 2013
#52
I stopped listening in the early 1990s, late 1980s. The voice tone told me everything I needed to
JDPriestly
Sep 2013
#71
"I remember when Democrats actually used government to level the playing field ...
CrispyQ
Sep 2013
#43
Heard it this morn too but just got on and saw your excellent OP. HUGE K&R nt
riderinthestorm
Sep 2013
#4
Without question the highest level of condescension this side of Glenn Hubbard . . .
hatrack
Sep 2013
#86
A conversation I had with a schoolteacher friend in MN stated that kids are acting more self centered
adirondacker
Sep 2013
#31
Is this defeatism? he's conceding the fight altogether? for whom is he conceding?
99th_Monkey
Sep 2013
#8
It's so obvious - we need a New New Deal, this time with guaranteed minimum income for all.
reformist2
Sep 2013
#12
I don't give Reagan much credit, his "handlers" had a lot of the ideas, but I do not think they had
Dustlawyer
Sep 2013
#15
I think we blame too much on the right-wing. The 1% isnt right or left they are power.
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#45
They want a world where the ONLY way to make it is to kiss their ass for a few crumbs.
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2013
#26
A lot of us were already stupid enough that we didn't make it a crime to lie and call it news.
FiveGoodMen
Sep 2013
#57
This vid should go viral, but at six and a half minutes, I guess it's too long for most people.
CrispyQ
Sep 2013
#42
And the nitwits among us obsess over trashing Greenwald. They cant discuss the intelligence
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#46
Tell me that those that obsess over Greenwald arent trying to deflect attention from other
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#63
Nobody is "obsessing over Greenwald", other than hacks who continue to target him with smears.
Maedhros
Sep 2013
#69
It is possible that I'm a bit over-reactive when it comes to this particular issue.
Maedhros
Sep 2013
#78
Ooh, just what we need: a country full of impoverished people with a lot of guns.
winter is coming
Sep 2013
#50
for profit prisons can take millions more as all those angry people break laws, their lobby wrote.
Sunlei
Sep 2013
#58
Maybe it's time for the young generation to think about leaving the country to find
Vashta Nerada
Sep 2013
#51
The RIGHTward move this country has taken in 35 years on nearly ALL fronts is KILLING us.
HughBeaumont
Sep 2013
#55
this could change if gov would cut the barriers that prevent people from working out of their homes.
Sunlei
Sep 2013
#56
How about Liberal Democrats? They're infinitely better than the Wall Street lubbers.
Octafish
Sep 2013
#89
Please, write an OP. Meanwhile, the Banksters who destroyed the American middle class...
Octafish
Sep 2013
#84
In boosting the ''size'' at the top of the pyramid from 1- to 15-percent he added a lot of Hopium.
Octafish
Sep 2013
#87
10% of NPR employees are going to be looking for other jobs-the airwaves belong to the people-right?
bobthedrummer
Sep 2013
#93