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113. A freakin Men

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Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:46 PM

Oct 2013

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Um, this has more to do with 20+ years of Third Way Dems appeasing real crazies, [View all] MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 OP

Obama's got this. Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #1

Whoosh! cui bono Oct 2013 #7

ROFLMAO! NealK Oct 2013 #150

Perfect! polichick Oct 2013 #153

Yeah, and then what? Scootaloo Oct 2013 #8

... and then Hillary JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2013 #21

If Clinton couldn't pull ahead in '08, no reason to think she could do so in '16 Scootaloo Oct 2013 #24

Why do people call me a BOGer? Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #58

By your posts. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #92

I was opposed to the attack on Libya Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #93

It's happened to me as well. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #166

Spam deleted by MIR Team 762ParallaxView Oct 2013 #12

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #42

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And that's what you call an attack? Looks to me like he was trying to turn an rhett o rick Oct 2013 #65

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So it isnt about discussion is it? It's about ridicule and derogatory comments. I am proud of my rhett o rick Oct 2013 #68

Welcome to DU Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #59

Kabuki Theatre. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #2

Are the first two posters having a Vulcan mind meld or something? n/t Fumesucker Oct 2013 #3

There is no way to appease crazies. pnwmom Oct 2013 #4

Negotiating with terrorists...for years. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #5

it's called 'bi-partisianship' KG Oct 2013 #30

Not when it is all give and no get. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #39

Not quite FiveGoodMen Oct 2013 #63

Yes--much better. Thanks. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #91

First Way. First Cause. highprincipleswork Oct 2013 #136

I agree with you. the social change required after decades of christian, radica repuke infiltration BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #140

And that is what is disturbing DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #149

K&R. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #6

knr Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #9

I'm sorry, Manny, but while this WAS indeed part of the problem...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #10

Pure unmitigated bullshit eridani Oct 2013 #13

I wish it was. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #15

"Greenwald/Hamsher types" happen to be politically active eridani Oct 2013 #18

Keep trying to deflect the blame.. sendero Oct 2013 #32

^ Best Post Ever ^ Myrina Oct 2013 #38

And a hat tip for sendero Phlem Oct 2013 #103

I fear that you are right. zeemike Oct 2013 #130

And unfortunately, misinformation such as..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #183

1st Dimensional Chess n/t reddread Oct 2013 #184

+1 ^^^this^^^ L0oniX Oct 2013 #137

Everything.you.just.said. nt laundry_queen Oct 2013 #138

Exactly. cui bono Oct 2013 #155

And how much further does it have to sink? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #174

Tell it to Obama.. sendero Oct 2013 #176

How about answering my question? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #181

Bullshit on toast. Oregon, very libreal Oregon, had record setting mid term turnout Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #40

The thing is, though, these are all amongst THE most reliable Democratic states. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #69

Ah Texas which actually factually sent some glorious Tea Birds to DC! Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #105

"Your position is pure fantastia. It is also painfully simplistic thinking." Quite the opposite..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #114

Assertions again, and no data whatsoever. eridani Oct 2013 #142

Firebaggers? I don't think so. Real activist progressives, maybe. Not Firebaggers. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #143

The active ones are the lefties, period. eridani Oct 2013 #146

BS that has been debunked numerous times, bvar22 Oct 2013 #57

Often wrong, but never in doubt pscot Oct 2013 #70

I could say the same for a lot of the emoprogs, too, but I'd actually be right. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #71

climate doomers? frylock Oct 2013 #96

I guess you've never been around E & E much. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #117

What is an emoprog? Change has come Oct 2013 #123

The GOTV effort plays into that, too. joshcryer Oct 2013 #17

How do we stop those Firebaggers MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #37

You tell them "Obama said he wanted to put everything on the table." joshcryer Oct 2013 #126

It remains an objective fact that Oregon had the highest midterm turnout ever. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #41

I think the vote-by-mail on the West Coast has a lot to do with that. cemaphonic Oct 2013 #64

Oregon is my State. I keep pointing out that only SOME places had crappy turnout Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #109

That's due in part to Measure 74. joshcryer Oct 2013 #128

Agreed. I NEVER skip voting -- Never! whathehell Oct 2013 #31

So why did they say on DU treestar Oct 2013 #48

Both of them! Who cares what disrupters say? Change has come Oct 2013 #124

Bullshit. Scuba Oct 2013 #25

Show us your MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #35

I've been posting that link a lot Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #36

and that was likely posted by a "self-identified liberal" frylock Oct 2013 #55

How did you know? Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #56

just a hunch frylock Oct 2013 #173

Only 39 million Democratic voters in 2010...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #72

No, it was the personality cultists who stayed home in 2010 QC Oct 2013 #74

Complete bullshit. I'm sorry, but that's what it is. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #75

Sure, but it's no more wrong than the falsehood QC Oct 2013 #81

What grudge? I'm a liberal myself, bubba. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #110

Here's the proof: 2006 Independents 59-37 Democrats. 2010 Independents 55-39 Republicans. neverforget Oct 2013 #141

True, but as I've said, it doesn't quite explain the rather large discrepancy. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #144

First, you are comparing the numbers of a midterm election (which are generally sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #147

Midterm elections ALWAYS have less turnout than presidential elections. I'm a Liberal neverforget Oct 2013 #161

Very true, but again, look at the discrepancy. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #169

You're comparing a Presidential election (an apple) to midterm elections (an orange). neverforget Oct 2013 #177

I don't know where you're getting your information, Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #77

As I pointed out, not all progressives stayed home. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #78

Not to disagree with you, Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #80

Good for you. Because many of your compatriots DIDN'T. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #111

You keep saying that but you have yet to provide any data to back up your assertion. cui bono Oct 2013 #156

I have worked on elections for over a decade with pretty much the same people showing up to help. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #82

Pissing off the 'emoprogs' is one way. GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #95

I tried to figure that out. Phlem Oct 2013 #100

Bullshit Vanje Oct 2013 #101

yep. Phlem Oct 2013 #102

Bring the facts, not baseless assertions. quakerboy Oct 2013 #104

certain factions amongst our fellow liberals who did indeed stay home in 2010." Vanje Oct 2013 #107

Joe, that is not true. Liberals voted in slightly more numbers in 2010 than they sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #135

I'm sorry, Sabrina, but the discrepancy was just too large...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #145

You've been asked for data, for proof LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #159

"Blame-o-tantrum"? Really? AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #162

Yes, really LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #164

It's not just a gut feeling. It's common sense. n/t AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #167

then fucking back it up for fuck's sake.. frylock Oct 2013 #168

+1000 LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #179

Again, this doesn't fully account for the loss. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #180

and again, you have nothing frylock Oct 2013 #182

BWHAHAHAHHA LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #178

You're spouting a disproven lie LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #158

" and it was NOT left liberals that stayed home." Not all, certainly. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #163

Du rec. Nt xchrom Oct 2013 #11

If yr talking about the shutdown, it's got everything to do with utter lunatics on the Right... Violet_Crumble Oct 2013 #14

Tell that to Grayson and Feingold. joshcryer Oct 2013 #16

You are right it has nothing to do with elections Egnever Oct 2013 #19

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #29

and keep up the fantasy that if only we'd run a real liberal treestar Oct 2013 #47

Yes, that's exactly what I wrote MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #54

At least the left has principles. Ask a so-called centrist what their principles are and they rhett o rick Oct 2013 #84

THANK YOU Skittles Oct 2013 #20

And remember we can't control them tblue Oct 2013 #22

Seems to me the RepubliCONS have been threatening a shutdown ever since they fasttense Oct 2013 #23

The House Democrats hated the tax cut extension. joshcryer Oct 2013 #27

They hated it but voted for it. This makes the 'hate' rhetorical, the support actual. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #44

but they really really REALLY wanted to vote against the extensions.. frylock Oct 2013 #97

Yes, refusing to show up at the signing ceremony is important. joshcryer Oct 2013 #131

Yeah, tax hikes to millions of Americans in a recession. joshcryer Oct 2013 #129

Thanks Manny. Again. Scuba Oct 2013 #26

Kicked and recommended. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #28

Exactly. 99Forever Oct 2013 #33

They're bullies who think they can get away with anything... ananda Oct 2013 #34

Yes. Exactly like George Lakoff said was happening. The appeasing is Zorra Oct 2013 #43

Lakoff did a great job saying what I've been trying to say! Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #90

Its not just Dems appeasing right wing wackos, its also the Republican party. apnu Oct 2013 #45

FDR never compromised? LOL treestar Oct 2013 #46

Let's see... Obama has 4 vetoes, while FDR... MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #50

Oh... Oilwellian Oct 2013 #51

Haha, what legislation did the 112-113 Congress' pass? joshcryer Oct 2013 #132

Manny, this is a BAD talking point. FDR's vetoes were at times very bad. joshcryer Oct 2013 #148

Aren't there some un-bashed liberals somewhere? Slacker. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #60

Thank you, Manny. jsr Oct 2013 #49

If the Democrats want the left to vote...appeal to the left rather than the right. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #53

So you're saying ... keeping thugs like Cruz out of office isn't enough to get "the left" to vote? MH1 Oct 2013 #122

I should have said.... Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #139

The Ringleader for the liberal bashers was shown the door. Rex Oct 2013 #61

Such a damn shame.....and no, MichDem was no "liberal basher" either. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #79

No. No one has to admit something that isn't true. cui bono Oct 2013 #157

"There is no way you are a liberal if you buy into what he's selling." I'm sorry you feel that way. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #165

Where are your stats showing this assertion? The only stats I've seen are that moderates sat out. cui bono Oct 2013 #170

who needs stats when they can continue to fall back on "common sense?" frylock Oct 2013 #172

you know who else is a liberal bashing divisive troll? frylock Oct 2013 #171

You are playing in the same muddy field as michigandem I see. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #62

So you're not a fan of MichDem all of a sudden? What changed? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #73

It's Obama's Fault!! cry baby Oct 2013 #67

No one thinks "liberals" stayed home. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #76

Good post +1 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #175

No no no, this has nothing to do with the rightward swing decades in the making RedCappedBandit Oct 2013 #83

Damn right gopiscrap Oct 2013 #85

Faux dems? ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #86

. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #88

The left is organized. We drink together once a month at Drink Liberally around the country. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #87

What happened to Third Way Manny? rucky Oct 2013 #89

Way to go blaming what you call 'Third Way Dems' Grateful for Hope Oct 2013 #94

There we go. Good post, man. n/t AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #115

Thanks AverageJoe90 Grateful for Hope Oct 2013 #118

Spot on! K&R oxymoron Oct 2013 #98

Now don't leave out Ted Cruz's amazing idiocy and arrogance! Rex Oct 2013 #99

I think he had a plan MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #106

What was it then? Rex Oct 2013 #108

Whew! Everyone on the internet is blaming the Repubs for this! zappaman Oct 2013 #112

A freakin Men lobezen Oct 2013 #113

manny i love to read your stuff..... SwampG8r Oct 2013 #116

I hear you. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #120

choose whether you are acting or reacting SwampG8r Oct 2013 #125

Supreme nailage! K&R whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #119

I disagree MFrohike Oct 2013 #121

Nicely said DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #127

It's really weird to me how people are so willing to blame fellow liberals. liberalmuse Oct 2013 #133

First Way. First Cause. highprincipleswork Oct 2013 #134

oh, I like that last line. "The time grows near for FDR liberals to crawl out from under the bus, liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #151

Right. 40 Republican teabaggers and a weak-assed Speaker are holding the House hostage... SidDithers Oct 2013 #152

One of us has a reading disability. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #160

We totally need to stop the Limbaugh like anti-left, anti-liberal, conservative, self-described Zorra Oct 2013 #154