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Octafish

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41. No. You're wrong.
Sun Oct 6, 2013, 12:46 PM
Oct 2013
38. No it has terminal functional problems.
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The fact of the matter is that there is nothing the republicans in the house are doing that is unconstitutional, so for starters, this is an example of yet another unforeseen outcome. The original constitution institutionalized slavery, regionalism, property rights over human rights, restricted full civil rights to property owning white men, wasn't clear about the role of the Supreme Court, and defined an upper legislative chamber that quickly became an institution of open corruption.

The whole mess disolved in less than 100 years in a bloody civil war, and was reconstituted in republic 2.0, a new and different corrupt mess that carried on for another 70 years until it too reached a crisis in the form of the Great Depression. The current version, republic 3.0, is also at a crisis point. The original constitution is more or less irrelevant, claims to be the true standard bearers for that piece of parchment are absurd.


The problem isn't with the Constitution, it's with the people who think they're above it. A Department of Justice that enforces the Constitution and the nation's laws equally for all will go a long way toward solving the nation's problems as well as taking out the corrupt Congress, federal agencies and conservative neo-NAZI courts.

As for your example of the current budget crisis, President Obama has kept his ace up his sleave. The 14th Amendment enables him to protect the good faith and credit of the USA, if he wants to use it.

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Thank you. I was unaware of Linz, and this Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #1
When Reason And Politics Fail - Terrorism Prevails cantbeserious Oct 2013 #2
Wow. K&R nt riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #3
One good reform would be a national standard for redistricting bhikkhu Oct 2013 #4
Nah, it would actually be S A D Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #5
Smart people have been known to be ridiculously wrong Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #6
The parliamentary system has one huge advantage Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #8
True, but that can also be a disadvantage Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #10
Yes. It can be very unstable -- as in Greece. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #20
Which doesn't help much if no one party wins a majority Kaleva Oct 2013 #11
Parliamentary systems have minor flaws compared to presidential systems starroute Oct 2013 #14
Sad but true. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #21
Rereading my own post, I think the question of legitimate authority explains a lot starroute Oct 2013 #26
+1. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #31
I like your sig bumper sticker tavalon Oct 2013 #27
For a long period of our nation's history, a minority ruled this nation. Kaleva Oct 2013 #40
This is why Obama must stand strong... Barack_America Oct 2013 #7
If they balk on the debt limit AAO Oct 2013 #16
I agree with the characterization of the Constitution. randome Oct 2013 #9
somebody had to say it Chaco Dundee Oct 2013 #15
I couldn't disagree more. Octafish Oct 2013 #34
No it has terminal functional problems. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #38
No. You're wrong. Octafish Oct 2013 #41
Stable governments alternate between an oligarchy and an emperor FarCenter Oct 2013 #12
As we once were tavalon Oct 2013 #28
Agreed, in principle. Laelth Oct 2013 #32
Fuck that, its basic greed on behalf of the GOP! Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #13
thank you, Cali Cha Oct 2013 #17
Moderate Republicans in the House can change this situation right away. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #18
My answer to your question. Laelth Oct 2013 #35
This would work until the mid-terms I would guess. cui bono Oct 2013 #43
Powerful read. K&R nt riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #19
And this is no small country... defacto7 Oct 2013 #22
Powerful final sentences!! young_at_heart Oct 2013 #23
+1. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #36
"The power struggle will be resolved as a pure contest of willpower." Jim Warren Oct 2013 #24
And public shaming tavalon Oct 2013 #25
If we fail, it won't be due to a power struggle between branches ThoughtCriminal Oct 2013 #29
Interesting. Thanks for posting. k&r n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #30
He might have been right if the US had a democracy, we don't. bahrbearian Oct 2013 #33
One that might do Mussolini proud except for the trains and planes that do no run/fly indepat Oct 2013 #45
the 14th amendment. Obama can pull that out, can he not? magical thyme Oct 2013 #37
How many parliamentary systems were actually stable? Progressive dog Oct 2013 #39
K&R oxymoron Oct 2013 #42
May the President exert such forceful willpower that Rethuglicans go crawling back to their states/ indepat Oct 2013 #44
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