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In reply to the discussion: Octafish to attend JFK assassination conference. Do you think JFK still matters? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)202. Thanks for your POV, pscot. There are many CIA papers that bear direct relevance...
George Joannides was PAYMASTER for CIA Plot Linking Oswald to CASTRO

WHAT JANE ROMAN SAID
A Retired CIA Officer Speaks Candidly About Lee Harvey Oswald
By Jefferson Morley
EXCERPT...
Dick Helms Man in Miami
Still more vindication came in November 1998. Without fanfare, the CIA declassified the personnel file of a previously unknown operations officer on the Special Affairs Staff named George Joannides. Jane Roman had said that in late 1963 certain people in the CIAs anti-Castro operation were showing a keen interest in Oswald held very closely on the need to know basis. Skeptics of my story could rightly ask, Like who?
The new records suggested George Joannides was one such SAS operative. The reason for his interest? The bulk of the available evidence indicates that Joannides in late 1963 was running a psychological warfare operation designed to link Lee Harvey Oswald to the Castro government without disclosing the CIAs hand.
George E. Joannides (pronounced Joe-uh-NEE-deez) is a new and important character in the Kennedy assassination story. The son of a well-known Greek-American newspaper columnist in New York City, he went to law school and joined the CIA in 1951. Joannides, fluent in Greek and French, was sent to the Athens station. By 1963, he was 40 years old, a rising protégé of Tom Karamessines. He was highly regarded for his skills in political action, propaganda and psychological warfare operations. A dapper, witty man, Joannides presented himself publicly as a Defense Department lawyer. In fact, in 1963 he was Dick Helms man in Miami.
His personnel file showed that he served in 1963 as the chief of the Psychological Warfare branch of the CIAs station in Miami. He had a staff of 24 and a budget of $1.5 million. He also was in charge of handling the anti-Castro student group that Oswald had tried to infiltrate in August 1963. They called themselves the Cuban Student Directorate and it was Joannidess job to guide and monitor them. Under a CIA program code named AMSPELL, he was giving $25,000 a month to Luis Fernandez Rocha and Juan Salvat, the Directorates leaders in Miami. That funding supported the Directorates chapters in New Orleans and other cities.
Fernandez Rocha and Salvat, who still live in Miami, confirm the story. Fenandez Rocha is a doctor. Salvat owns a publishing house. Both recall a close but stormy relationship with George Joannides whom they knew only as Howard. The records of the Directorate, now in the University of Miami archives, support their memories. The groups archives show that Howard worked closely with the Directorate on a wide variety of issues. He bought them an air conditioner and reviewed their military plans. He was aware of their efforts to buy guns. He briefed them on how to answer questions from the press and paid for their travels. Joannides was certainly responsible for knowing if a Castro supporter was trying to infiltrate their ranks.
Then came November 22, 1963. On a political trip to Dallas, Kennedy died in a hail of gunfire. Ninety minutes later, a suspect, Lee Oswald, was arrested. Not long after that Joannides received a call from the Cuban students saying they knew all about the accused assassin. He told them not to go public until he could check with Washington. They went public anyway. As the American nation reeled from the shock of Kennedys violent death, Salvat and Fernandez Rocha and other Cuban students embarked on a wide-ranging and effective media blitz to link Fidel Castro to Kennedys death.
CONTINUED...
http://history-matters.com/essays/frameup/WhatJaneRomanSaid/WhatJaneRomanSaid_6.htm

WHAT JANE ROMAN SAID
A Retired CIA Officer Speaks Candidly About Lee Harvey Oswald
By Jefferson Morley
EXCERPT...
Dick Helms Man in Miami
Still more vindication came in November 1998. Without fanfare, the CIA declassified the personnel file of a previously unknown operations officer on the Special Affairs Staff named George Joannides. Jane Roman had said that in late 1963 certain people in the CIAs anti-Castro operation were showing a keen interest in Oswald held very closely on the need to know basis. Skeptics of my story could rightly ask, Like who?
The new records suggested George Joannides was one such SAS operative. The reason for his interest? The bulk of the available evidence indicates that Joannides in late 1963 was running a psychological warfare operation designed to link Lee Harvey Oswald to the Castro government without disclosing the CIAs hand.
George E. Joannides (pronounced Joe-uh-NEE-deez) is a new and important character in the Kennedy assassination story. The son of a well-known Greek-American newspaper columnist in New York City, he went to law school and joined the CIA in 1951. Joannides, fluent in Greek and French, was sent to the Athens station. By 1963, he was 40 years old, a rising protégé of Tom Karamessines. He was highly regarded for his skills in political action, propaganda and psychological warfare operations. A dapper, witty man, Joannides presented himself publicly as a Defense Department lawyer. In fact, in 1963 he was Dick Helms man in Miami.
His personnel file showed that he served in 1963 as the chief of the Psychological Warfare branch of the CIAs station in Miami. He had a staff of 24 and a budget of $1.5 million. He also was in charge of handling the anti-Castro student group that Oswald had tried to infiltrate in August 1963. They called themselves the Cuban Student Directorate and it was Joannidess job to guide and monitor them. Under a CIA program code named AMSPELL, he was giving $25,000 a month to Luis Fernandez Rocha and Juan Salvat, the Directorates leaders in Miami. That funding supported the Directorates chapters in New Orleans and other cities.
Fernandez Rocha and Salvat, who still live in Miami, confirm the story. Fenandez Rocha is a doctor. Salvat owns a publishing house. Both recall a close but stormy relationship with George Joannides whom they knew only as Howard. The records of the Directorate, now in the University of Miami archives, support their memories. The groups archives show that Howard worked closely with the Directorate on a wide variety of issues. He bought them an air conditioner and reviewed their military plans. He was aware of their efforts to buy guns. He briefed them on how to answer questions from the press and paid for their travels. Joannides was certainly responsible for knowing if a Castro supporter was trying to infiltrate their ranks.
Then came November 22, 1963. On a political trip to Dallas, Kennedy died in a hail of gunfire. Ninety minutes later, a suspect, Lee Oswald, was arrested. Not long after that Joannides received a call from the Cuban students saying they knew all about the accused assassin. He told them not to go public until he could check with Washington. They went public anyway. As the American nation reeled from the shock of Kennedys violent death, Salvat and Fernandez Rocha and other Cuban students embarked on a wide-ranging and effective media blitz to link Fidel Castro to Kennedys death.
CONTINUED...
http://history-matters.com/essays/frameup/WhatJaneRomanSaid/WhatJaneRomanSaid_6.htm
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Octafish to attend JFK assassination conference. Do you think JFK still matters? [View all]
Octafish
Oct 2013
OP
Five years ago, DU2 had a pair of mammoth threads that I can longer access...
Octafish
Oct 2013
#169
Kick/Rec. Yes, it matters because of the word you used - truth. It's in ever increasingly short
NRaleighLiberal
Oct 2013
#6
No...thank YOU for what you are doing - and always do for us here...and for teaching me a new word!
NRaleighLiberal
Oct 2013
#191
Thanks, notadmblnd! People wonder why the USA tortures children, invades innocent countries...
Octafish
Oct 2013
#199
I imagine that to be the case for the under-educated who believe history is not relevant.
LanternWaste
Oct 2013
#139
Thanks for your POV, pscot. There are many CIA papers that bear direct relevance...
Octafish
Oct 2013
#202
JFK's Assassination was/is a watershed moment in our nation's history, it is of great importance.
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#13
Yes, it matters. But looking ahead Mother Nature is going to kick human ass. IT WILL BE UGLY.
hunter
Oct 2013
#15
When it comes to the disease, we must strike at the root -- the radical approach.
Octafish
Oct 2013
#231
Good posts rebutting the willing ignorance of the JFK CTists, but you may as well be shouting
stopbush
Oct 2013
#146
For many, and, on certain levels, I'd go as far as to say "most" if not all. As for the economy,
whathehell
Oct 2013
#91
Of course not. You're still young & immature enough to think calling us "old" is a debate strategy
whathehell
Oct 2013
#116
I'm pretty sure that, being in possession of all the academic information you have, in addition
whathehell
Oct 2013
#163
Sorry, Brad, unlike yourself, I'm not a man of any color -- I'm a female, like Juajen, who also
whathehell
Oct 2013
#227
What I meant by that is, it seems to be the moment when the other side decided to just start killing
stranger81
Oct 2013
#51
Exactly. All the same political actors benefited from each "lone nut" assassination.
villager
Oct 2013
#88
Superficially, no it wasn't. but there is a fundamental yes underlying that time.
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#197
Exactly. I doubt the deniers have ever fired a shot, much less from elevation
Link Speed
Oct 2013
#22
2 shots out of 3 on a target ranging from less than 60 to less than 100 yards away?
Spider Jerusalem
Oct 2013
#105
Justice demands one ex-Secret Service Agent and one ex-FBI Agent testify before Congress...
Octafish
Oct 2013
#252
Interestingly enough I'm currently reading a book by L. Fletcher Prouty about the subject...
rwsanders
Oct 2013
#25
Thanks Octafish, that's the book I'm reading. So far it is very sad as it kind of picks up where...
rwsanders
Oct 2013
#251
Dismissing conspiracy theories about the assassination is not making light of the event. n/t
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#41
And you do so in violation of the SOP for GD and the Terms of Service for DU.
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#166
Correct. ALSO is the operative word. It was bigger than Oswald there was a likely conspiracy
avaistheone1
Oct 2013
#93
It was fifty years ago. It's a very cold case. The original investigation may indeed
struggle4progress
Oct 2013
#46
I'm not a 'boomer' whatever that is, and it very much interests me. It is part of the history of
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#87
It most certainly is still relevant. You see how our country STILL won't speak to Cuba?
loudsue
Oct 2013
#70
I believe that open-minded persons never close the door. We know we are fed propaganda
rhett o rick
Oct 2013
#72
considering how long it takes to get things declassified I would say it does still matter.
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2013
#76
We are on the threshold of a grand and open conspiracy to destroy Constitutional government.
gordianot
Oct 2013
#81
I think Lincoln's assassination IMO matters a great deal more than Kennedy's
Hippo_Tron
Oct 2013
#185
Michael Parenti: The JFK Assassination and the Gangster Nature of the State
Junkdrawer
Oct 2013
#119
Hoping for a great conference, looking forward to your comments on it. Rec. n/t
Judi Lynn
Oct 2013
#160
I think some of JFKs wish list like civil rights, programs for the poor
arely staircase
Oct 2013
#242
It matters as much as our Constitution due in part to its first establishment.
Festivito
Oct 2013
#186
JFK threw himself upon the broken barricade between democracy and the fascist national security stat
hedda_foil
Oct 2013
#229
I have traveled to almost every continent and one thing I have seen almost everywhere
DonRedwood
Oct 2013
#241
I now realize that Daniel Brandt's Name Base is back online-it's wonderfully easy to use-KICK
bobthedrummer
Oct 2013
#247
I am excited for you Octafish. I know you are going to enjoy this symposium.
avaistheone1
Oct 2013
#260