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WillyT

(72,631 posts) Tue Oct 22, 2013, 10:07 PM Oct 2013

Brass Tacks 2.0... Would YOU Support ANY Democrat That Proposes Cutting SS & Medicare Benefits ??? [View all]

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Brass Tacks 2.0... Would YOU Support ANY Democrat That Proposes Cutting SS & Medicare Benefits ??? [View all] WillyT Oct 2013 OP

K7R pscot Oct 2013 #1

I'm With You 777 WillyT Oct 2013 #3

Absolutely not. Plain and simple. Autumn Oct 2013 #2

:loveya: WillyT Oct 2013 #4

love ya too WillyT Autumn Oct 2013 #10

How do you define "cutting?" treestar Oct 2013 #5

Oh No... You Tell ME... What "Cuts" Do Not Impact Those ENTITLED TO THE BENEFITS THEY'VE EARNED ??? WillyT Oct 2013 #8

You didn't answer: what's a "cut"? Recursion Oct 2013 #21

Under a chained CPI they will go down, relative to the inflation faced by the elderly Dragonfli Oct 2013 #24

By definition, no Recursion Oct 2013 #26

misinformation Dragonfli Oct 2013 #27

Yes, your post was. Glad you recognize that (nt) Recursion Oct 2013 #28

Chained CPI does not figure inflation correctly. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #37

That's a good synthesis of how it's been described on DU, but not very accurate Recursion Oct 2013 #58

The bottom line is that this should not be a part of any Deficit talks sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #86

He is sitting in Mumbai, India RandiFan1290 Oct 2013 #44

What is disgusting is attacking Americans because they live in another country treestar Oct 2013 #52

This again? Recursion Oct 2013 #61

Total misinformation. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #50

They always leave that out - that even if it were adopted, it would not treestar Oct 2013 #51

The Chained CPI is intended to cut SS. Not 'by definition' or any other sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #70

The average Social Secuirty benefit is maybe 200 dollars above the minimum wage level. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #36

Why do you ignore the fact that under O's floated proposal the poorest 1/3 keep the old CPI? Recursion Oct 2013 #60

Gee, upthread you were claiming that CCPI is the more true measure of inflation, a good thing Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #74

Nope Recursion Oct 2013 #75

Because the people between 1/3 and 1/2 still fall gradually below the poverty line. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #87

The poverty rate among US seniors is 15% Recursion Oct 2013 #89

I guess I am wayyyyy below avg. Bohunk68 Oct 2013 #73

Yes. Approximately 1/2 of the receipients of Social Security are under the average level. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #88

It's a simple question treestar Oct 2013 #49

Anything that takes a single penny away from those who OWN that fund. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #69

no, No and NO cantbeserious Oct 2013 #6

No! truebluegreen Oct 2013 #7

Exactly TexasBushwhacker Oct 2013 #15

cost cutting measures can be made without cutting benefits krawhitham Oct 2013 #9

And You'd Better Be Damned Careful, Honest, And Explicit When You Try To Explain That Theory... WillyT Oct 2013 #13

How? Medicare has lower administrative costs than does private insurance. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #38

Propose yes. Proposing it can be nothing more than a political chess move. Actually voting for okaawhatever Oct 2013 #11

Like the chess move that pays banks $85 billion a month because it's good for the little people? jtuck004 Oct 2013 #23

You are watching to much Richard Wolff BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #25

I had heard the name, but never read up on him. But behold, a web site. jtuck004 Oct 2013 #35

He made an analysis of the recovery that isn't a recovery unless you disregard the majority BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #48

+1 cui bono Oct 2013 #32

Plus 1,000,000! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #53

Ommm.....none of the things you mentioned, except the expiration of the Recovery Act, have anything okaawhatever Oct 2013 #90

And they say manufacturing is dead, yet some can manufacture excuses all day long. jtuck004 Oct 2013 #93

It's the Democrats who keep raising the subject. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #34

Dempocrats may be betraying their ideals by suggesting cutting social security, but they aren't for okaawhatever Oct 2013 #92

Proposing it puts it on the table, LWolf Oct 2013 #65

"You want X? Ok, what will you give me for X?" That's the game. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #85

Thank you, it seems the seniors are starting to come around. I was wondering what the numbers okaawhatever Oct 2013 #91

YUP ... and your last sentence really nails another great point. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #95

Time to bring out the old "anti-war" crew. Hell, no we won't go ... without healthcare for our libdem4life Oct 2013 #12

snatch defeat from the jaws of victory dembotoz Oct 2013 #14

Chuckle ReRe Oct 2013 #30

That's "Democratic". Enough with the Rovian re-naming. riqster Oct 2013 #43

never.... mike_c Oct 2013 #16

Me Too... WillyT Oct 2013 #17

Already cut SS benefits when they upped age to get full benefits. kiranon Oct 2013 #18

exactly. So many on here swear their precious democratic leaders have never hurt SS. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #22

+10000 woo me with science Oct 2013 #29

It wasn't that the increases Bohunk68 Oct 2013 #71

We need to end the trade agreements that permit US jobs to be moved overseas without JDPriestly Oct 2013 #40

We need a pro-American trade policy. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #59

"Where are the jobs?" Enthusiast Oct 2013 #56

That's sacred territory BlueJazz Oct 2013 #19

What's a "cut"? Recursion Oct 2013 #20

A reduction in buying power. Quit your dancing, your answer is yes but it is preferred TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #62

"Too generous" is a weird way to put it. Recursion Oct 2013 #63

I'm pushing for reductions to the TSP portion of FERS, we can't afford that extra gravy Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #76

I don't see what is weird about it. That has to be the argument, most folks are just over broke, at TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #83

They are too meager, which is why it would have to include something big Recursion Oct 2013 #84

medicare needs to EVOLVE. the SS FICA cap needs to be ELIMINATED. BOOM that is it. pansypoo53219 Oct 2013 #31

What evolution do you propose for Medicare? JDPriestly Oct 2013 #41

No way, Jose ReRe Oct 2013 #33

Depends. pnwmom Oct 2013 #39

Depends on circumstances - how bad things are, what people might get in return, whether Hoyt Oct 2013 #42

I had to choose "No"... because there wasn't a "NO WAY IN HELL!" option.... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #45

^ agree100% with Ghost! peacebird Oct 2013 #46

Hell no. nt DLevine Oct 2013 #47

Chained CPI is CUTTING Social Security eridani Oct 2013 #54

not just hell no but, gopiscrap Oct 2013 #55

Let Senator Durbin know how you feel--sign the CREDO petition eridani Oct 2013 #57

As it says on the red graphic .... Scuba Oct 2013 #64

Well they may say they won't Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #66

Yes Savannahmann Oct 2013 #67

This is not election season. If Skinner wants to ban folks for being actual Democrats he Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #77

The question was would I support them? Savannahmann Oct 2013 #80

need to see the short and long-term explanations and total package alc Oct 2013 #68

hell no... Slashed Enough Already eShirl Oct 2013 #72

I'm calling bullshit on myself. dawg Oct 2013 #78

Is there a video of a Democrat making such a proposal? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #79

No meanit Oct 2013 #81

I generally wouldn't but given the option of either voting for them or a Republican/Independent with Xyzse Oct 2013 #82

That "logic" means you can be herded as long as their is that scarier alternative TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #94

Well, this is how I voted Obama. Xyzse Oct 2013 #96