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22. Why does a private, for profit company have that kind of power in the first place?

Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:54 PM

Oct 2013

Secret, copyrighted, proprietary software on voting machines? That is criminal in itself.

Oh, and back to the subject of OP... Why were their no long prison sentences? The fine was pocked change, not even enough for lunch.

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Diebold Charged With Bribery, Falsifying Docs, 'Worldwide Pattern of Criminal Conduct' [View all] BradBlog Oct 2013 OP

Your elections are safe with Diebold Blue Owl Oct 2013 #1

I've still got this from the first time I voted in Georgia... TroglodyteScholar Oct 2013 #3

Same time they got Max Cleland also. brer cat Oct 2013 #7

outcome kardonb Oct 2013 #13

Yeah, absolutely safe Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #30

I want back all the votes they flipped. nt brer cat Oct 2013 #2

I want back Kerry's promise in 2004 that he wouldn't concede until all the votes were counted n/t Ace Acme Oct 2013 #5

Didn't he say that he didn't want to seem like a sore loser? merrily Oct 2013 #35

A few weeks before the election, Kerry acknowledged that 2 million votes of African Americans Ace Acme Oct 2013 #57

Ohio already had a recount system in place, set up in 2002 - It was Ohio Dems blm Oct 2013 #59

The Greens and the Libertarians pursued the 2004 recount Ace Acme Oct 2013 #62

He conceded the next day, slowest concession in US history. Internet myths are NOT facts. blm Oct 2013 #69

Thanks for proving my point. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #73

The recount was AUTOMATIC and occurred under Ohio rules that were in place. blm Oct 2013 #74

Kerry's concession was premature. The votes had not been counted. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #75

The letter was from Dec after he joined the effort. blm Oct 2013 #76

So first he conceded, and then he participated in the recount. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #77

Gore DID concede that night and UNconceded when he saw the numbers change blm Oct 2013 #83

You forgot that Bush never did concede an election he in fact lost. nt Ace Acme Oct 2013 #84

Just the kind of company that should be in control of who gets elected president of the USA. cui bono Oct 2013 #4

Why does a private, for profit company have that kind of power in the first place? RC Oct 2013 #22

Exactly. And yeah, the fines are nothing. They never make a dent no matter what company is fined. cui bono Oct 2013 #26

and deduct it from onethatcares Oct 2013 #32

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #6

KNR DirkGently Oct 2013 #8

falsifying documents? ...the vote counting company... nice. nashville_brook Oct 2013 #9

Eh? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #10

Wally O'Dell Botany Oct 2013 #16

^^ this. nashville_brook Oct 2013 #72

K&R ReRe Oct 2013 #11

Nothing short of hand marked, paper ballots is good enough. RC Oct 2013 #23

I still think it would work... ReRe Oct 2013 #31

A receipt, printed by the voting machine is worthless as soon as the voter leaves RC Oct 2013 #40

But then they put them through a machine to be counted. merrily Oct 2013 #36

But the advantage there is they still have the hand marked paper ballot to hand count. RC Oct 2013 #39

In case a recount is needed. Good point. merrily Oct 2013 #41

most states have laws in place to stop recounts questionseverything Oct 2013 #52

K&R + Plain Dealer article: alp227 Oct 2013 #12

Tennessee is a perfect example jazzimov Oct 2013 #14

can you vote early on paper? Botany Oct 2013 #17

Finally!!! savannah43 Oct 2013 #15

Read the entire article. They are getting off with a fine. newthinking Oct 2013 #19

Book em Dano! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #18

K&R! Phlem Oct 2013 #20

I want to attend the hanging Hekate Oct 2013 #21

K&R Solly Mack Oct 2013 #24

Get Katherine Harris next. lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #25

Fucking criminals. Yet again more proof that 2000 and 20004 were shams. Rex Oct 2013 #27

I wonder what else. Voting machines have been around longer than since 2000. merrily Oct 2013 #37

just one example questionseverything Oct 2013 #50

Good gawd. How long did that take? lonestarnot Oct 2013 #28

Get the can opener! glinda Oct 2013 #29

Oops!! malaise Oct 2013 #33

+1. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #34

At last! But, $50 million? Are we kidding? Anyone going to jail? merrily Oct 2013 #38

K&R n/t myrna minx Oct 2013 #42

Falsifying documents? And they're securing the Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence and Lars39 Oct 2013 #43

We need the "Corporate Death Penalty" back ewagner Oct 2013 #44

Yes! Please ..nt dougolat Oct 2013 #54

By all means, yes! eppur_se_muova Oct 2013 #60

Up the fine and put the CEO in prison! tblue Oct 2013 #45

Pencil on paper is the best technology around. Lets use it. JEB Oct 2013 #46

"deferred prosecution"??? A fine? Matariki Oct 2013 #47

ABSOLUTELY! dreampunk Oct 2013 #49

Absentee Ballot = they mail it to you, you fill it and mail it back; dreampunk Oct 2013 #48

When you vote absentee . . . aggiesal Oct 2013 #70

This is hardly surprising... ananda Oct 2013 #51

Too bad there aren't prison sentences Liberalynn Oct 2013 #53

Don't let them buy their way out of jail! Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #55

They forgot stealing elections. jwirr Oct 2013 #56

Sounds like the perfect criminal enterprise... zentrum Oct 2013 #58

So, no three strikes? blackspade Oct 2013 #61

Anyone going to prison? secondvariety Oct 2013 #63

They have Karl's "Numbers" Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #64

Odd what happens to those about to testify in court about this subject... Octafish Oct 2013 #79

Reminds me of the story of the DC madame who.. Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #80

Fine memory, yours, detailed and in depth... Octafish Oct 2013 #81

I believe that Karl was almost single handedly... Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #82

No fucking way, everyone knows that big business will do the right thing! Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #65

Whenever I go to the drive-thru pharmacy ailsagirl Oct 2013 #66

kick ailsagirl Oct 2013 #67

No fine is high enough DFW Oct 2013 #68

Has anyone ever gotten a contract in China, Indonesia or Russia without paying a bribe? saynotoplutocrats Oct 2013 #71

Hey! Dere machines are good as gold. Octafish Oct 2013 #78