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In reply to the discussion: Nov. 22, 1963: 50 years, and still no conspiracy|Op Ed LA Times [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)220. ABC News, the company Bill Casey rebuilt for the Company...
You know bought ABC? Capital Cities, made into a big time player by William Casey, who later became head of the CIA during Iran-Contra.
You know who Capital Cities made famous in white man circles? Rush Limbaugh.
Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy
The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.
John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.
Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.
This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.
SOURCE: http://tucradio.org/new.html
If you find a moment, here's the first part (scroll down at the link for the second part) on Carey.
http://tucradio.org/AlexCarey_ONE.mp3
This guy fills in a lot of blanks since Dr. Carey's suicide.
The Propaganda System That Has Helped Create a Permanent Overclass Is Over a Century in the Making
Pulling back the curtain on how intent the wealthiest Americans have been on establishing a propaganda tool to subvert democracy.
Wednesday, 17 April 2013 00:00
By Andrew Gavin Marshall, AlterNet | News Analysis
Where there is the possibility of democracy, there is the inevitability of elite insecurity. All through its history, democracy has been under a sustained attack by elite interests, political, economic, and cultural. There is a simple reason for this: democracy as in true democracy places power with people. In such circumstances, the few who hold power become threatened. With technological changes in modern history, with literacy and education, mass communication, organization and activism, elites have had to react to the changing nature of society locally and globally.
From the late 19th century on, the threats to elite interests from the possibility of true democracy mobilized institutions, ideologies, and individuals in support of power. What began was a massive social engineering project with one objective: control. Through educational institutions, the social sciences, philanthropic foundations, public relations and advertising agencies, corporations, banks, and states, powerful interests sought to reform and protect their power from the potential of popular democracy.
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The development of psychology, psychoanalysis, and other disciplines increasingly portrayed the public and the population as irrational beings incapable of making their own decisions. The premise was simple: if the population was driven by dangerous, irrational emotions, they needed to be kept out of power and ruled over by those who were driven by reason and rationality, naturally, those who were already in power.
The Princeton Radio Project, which began in the 1930s with Rockefeller Foundation funding, brought together many psychologists, social scientists, and experts armed with an interest in social control, mass communication, and propaganda. The Princeton Radio Project had a profound influence upon the development of a modern "democratic propaganda" in the United States and elsewhere in the industrialized world. It helped in establishing and nurturing the ideas, institutions, and individuals who would come to shape Americas democratic propaganda throughout the Cold War, a program fostered between the private corporations which own the media, advertising, marketing, and public relations industries, and the state itself.
CONTINUED...
http://truth-out.org/news/item/15784-the-propaganda-system-that-has-helped-create-a-permanent-overclass-is-over-a-century-in-the-making
ABC and the rest of Corporate McPravda are now just organs of the CIA, in service to the One Percent. These media monopolies need to go the way of Too Big To Fail Banks: Extinction.
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All they have to do is make sure that every fragment of evidence has been released to the public
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#76
Yes. In Texas. That's why people are not happy with the conclusions of the Warren Report.
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#148
I was in college when the assassination occurred. I remember it clearly. I am not happy
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#77
And the vast majority of those who discount the Warren Report have never actually read it.
stopbush
Oct 2013
#135
Because he has tons of evidence and a humanly possible scenario on his side
Schema Thing
Oct 2013
#8
How did Oswald get in and out of the Soviet Union during the height of the Cold War?
KurtNYC
Oct 2013
#96
what page or section? I find no mention of Ferrie or Ruby in the Oswald bio of WCR.
KurtNYC
Oct 2013
#146
Perhaps you either haven't read or have forgotten how Oswald got into the USSR.
KurtNYC
Oct 2013
#163
"the last person picked by anyone for a high profile operation" unless you need a patsy perhaps.
KurtNYC
Oct 2013
#172
When a target is moving directly away, it is as if the target is standing still.
GreenStormCloud
Oct 2013
#179
Yes. He passed the Marines qualification standards to be a combat rifleman.
GreenStormCloud
Oct 2013
#190
Could be because the nitty gritty of the whole story has been under secrecy wraps since it happened.
shraby
Oct 2013
#6
Heres a decent attempt to explain Warren on Japanese Internment You probably aren't interested
BootinUp
Oct 2013
#23
My wife, a political science major in the early '50s, still vividly recalls one of her professors,
indepat
Oct 2013
#36
We as citizens couldn't handle the truth......its easier to swallow what we are told.... Good god
Gin
Oct 2013
#26
The truth may be that Oswald didn't act alone, but many refuse to consider that.
villager
Oct 2013
#40
Since you credit the HSCA then, I guess -- since you don't cherry pick, right? -- you agree
villager
Oct 2013
#60
Let me turn the question around: Do you believe that all three major 60's assassinations were really
villager
Oct 2013
#66
Too bad that Hale Boggs who was on the Warren Commission and wanted to re-open an investigation
AnotherMcIntosh
Oct 2013
#27
The first odd thing was that the police, FBI, et al immediately knew that (1) Oswald was the shooter
AnotherMcIntosh
Oct 2013
#50
Well he was identified as the only employee who his employer was certain wasn't missing.
grantcart
Oct 2013
#154
Yep, stop looking for anyone else if an employer is reportedly missing one employee. Good call.
AnotherMcIntosh
Oct 2013
#155
Not true. Anyone can see the questions at #50: "How did they know that he was the only one involved?
AnotherMcIntosh
Oct 2013
#158
At #156, you said I "raised the question 'how did the police know it was Oswald so quickly'
AnotherMcIntosh
Oct 2013
#160
So we are clear on this point: There is absolutely nothing unusual or mysterious
grantcart
Oct 2013
#161
What we are clear on is that you create strawmen and falsely attribute statements to others.
AnotherMcIntosh
Oct 2013
#162
I found your post ambiguous and am trying to understand exactly what it is you are alleging.
grantcart
Oct 2013
#164
The birth of conspiracy theories was a huge detriment to the intelligence of American society.
BluegrassStateBlues
Oct 2013
#34
Yeah. It's not like George Herbert Walker Bush wasn't in Dallas on November 22, 1963.
Octafish
Oct 2013
#71
Thanks, but all that makes assumptions and cherry-picks in order to buttress the Warren Commission.
Octafish
Oct 2013
#82
Quit with the Sideshow, Bolo Boffin. When it comes to Dallas, CIA calls up its assets in the media.
Octafish
Oct 2013
#228
So you intend to keep climbing up on that cross, nailing yourself on, and wailing?
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#250
How much time do you have to dedicate yourself to a subthread on an old thread?
Octafish
Oct 2013
#255
Why defend a puke liar, Bolo Boffin? And your question has nothing to do with the subject.
Octafish
Oct 2013
#89
That says RFK is an accessory to his brother's murder. It doesn't get more "smear" than that.
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#110
Not what I wrote, Bolo Boffin. And yet you insist on saying that's what I wrote.
Octafish
Oct 2013
#116
What's sad is you continue to smear me by alleging what I did not write, Bolo Boffin.
Octafish
Oct 2013
#131
You. Posted. That. Article. And. Refuse. To. Disavow. The. RFK. Smear. n/t
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#132
If you're willing to misrepresent what I write, what else do you misrepresent?
Octafish
Oct 2013
#173
I haven't misrepresented you. You posted that link that smeared Bobby Kennedy.
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#176
Why do you want fewer people to learn what happened to President Kennedy, zappaman?
Octafish
Oct 2013
#128
You really do think Robert Kennedy was an accessory after the fact in his brother's murder.
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#196
You bring up things I didn't say and try to make me use my time defending them.
Octafish
Oct 2013
#256
You posted an article that smeared Robert Kennedy and commended the author to us.
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#251
The real fervor is from those who have stayed willingly blind through three major "coincidental"
villager
Oct 2013
#58
Those who want to squelch any inquiry may be understood by remembering a quote from Einstein.
AnotherMcIntosh
Oct 2013
#78
United States House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1976 concluded it was a likely conspiracy.
grahamhgreen
Oct 2013
#140
Nope. The Dictabelt recorded a motorcycle two miles away from Dealey Plaza.
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#194
Easy to fire that fast. The bullet was a full metal jacket bullet, designed to penetrate.
GreenStormCloud
Oct 2013
#191
So, your answer should be: ''I haven't written anything on DU about wars for profit.''
Octafish
Oct 2013
#230
That was a fairly easily obtained conspiracy. The level of complexity to the JFK assassination...
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#187
The responses in this thread prove that conspiratorial thinking is not just for the Right...
YoungDemCA
Oct 2013
#210
Not amazing, so typical that it is scary. Social engineering seems to work like a charm.
Rex
Oct 2013
#242
Remember who was elected on a platform to eliminate the Department of Education?
Octafish
Oct 2013
#246
That makes me want to vomit. Some lost soul still trying to sell that POS report.
Zen Democrat
Oct 2013
#267
Nonsense. That anyone can still advance the "official" story as true is laughable.
GoneFishin
Oct 2013
#276