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damnedifIknow

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35. Same thing happened to me

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 08:20 AM

Dec 2013

I put a couple garbage bags in a can and I always set my garbage out the night before pickup and I went to throw something else away and my can was empty. I've also had a cop come to my door asking if I called the police and then saying he had the wrong address but was in no rush to leave as he asked what type of dog I had. Just weird small talk for about 5 minutes.

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Former Top NSA Official: “We Are Now In A Police State” [View all] damnedifIknow Dec 2013 OP

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #1

I'm with this guy and Judge Leon! JackRiddler Dec 2013 #2

Looks to me that he has an axe to grind. And he has been gone from NSA for 12 years. Tx4obama Dec 2013 #3

Or he has a CONSCIENCE and understands the dangers of a surveillance state Matariki Dec 2013 #5

Well at least we know he's not an Obama hater. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #6

He is a person of prinicple and is widely regarded as such. He knows what he is talking about sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #22

Yes, let's grind that ax and hone it perfectly. How many people are illegally imprisoned? Coyotl Dec 2013 #26

I am sure Congress will be working diligently to find that out, how many have been illegally sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #91

FBI raid? Well, grind my ax. Bush critic? Hone it! Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #54

Yes. He has an ax to grind against the police state that GWB created. Apparently, you support Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #30

Seems it's cool if Obama does it. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2013 #81

This post should be unbelievable. TransitJohn Dec 2013 #45

Funny how those who value civil liberties more than their own jobs have axes to grind EOTE Dec 2013 #86

i can't imagine that you can see much with those blinders affixed frylock Dec 2013 #95

On the contrary, it looks like you have an axe to grind, TX4obama. Th1onein Dec 2013 #108

There are a group of posters that seem to do nothing else Maedhros Dec 2013 #115

I've noticed something about them lately..... Th1onein Dec 2013 #117

My favorite is the old classic: empty ridicule plus smilie. Maedhros Dec 2013 #121

yeah, well... fuck them! fascisthunter Dec 2013 #144

It pains me, though, to see their smarmy nonsense stand unchallenged. Maedhros Dec 2013 #155

I Understand Your Motivation fascisthunter Dec 2013 #166

I think you deserve a police state fascisthunter Dec 2013 #145

And to think ... hedda_foil Dec 2013 #4

Some attorneys focus on a particular area of the law not to protect it but to defeat it. JimDandy Dec 2013 #10

He was NEVER what could be called a "Professor of Constitutional Law, as if it was his speciality. savannah43 Dec 2013 #15

Yeah, me too. RC Dec 2013 #19

That was the prime reason why I shed a tear when he was elected BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #134

Yup. Me too. Funny how that "worked" out... truebrit71 Dec 2013 #163

K&R, K&R, K&R, K&R, K&R, K&R, K&R, K&R. woo me with science Dec 2013 #7

I received a five minute scolding from one of my poli sci professors OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #8

I would say to that professor . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #11

He said that if this were a totalitarian state OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #12

Very naive prof! n/t markpkessinger Dec 2013 #13

Many are unfamiliar with inverted totalitarianism nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #14

Even North Korea does not lock everyone up. zeemike Dec 2013 #28

He's not thinking of a police state, he's thinking of a slave state like Ancient Rome. sibelian Dec 2013 #36

I think I read that on DU the other day, too. woo me with science Dec 2013 #39

Point of totalitarianism: you don't have to lock everyone up. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #58

So 300,000,000 people are being cowed? I don't see the evidence for that. randome Dec 2013 #62

No. Most don't give a shit, as in most all countries. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #83

Well stated! randome Dec 2013 #88

Thank you. In the "golden age" of MSM, issues were national, Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #107

I think it's call a "straw man" argument when you misrepresent an argument then argue against it. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #111

Yet no one has been singled out. You are chasing phantoms. randome Dec 2013 #124

Apparently you arent keeping up. They have more than meta-data. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #128

Did you read the article? LiberalLovinLug Dec 2013 #130

I found a thread that I think you will like. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #143

Why would I discount this since there is clear evidence it is occurring? randome Dec 2013 #148

The posts shows that there is a market for personal data. The NSA has the capability to get rhett o rick Dec 2013 #149

I totally agree about not being naive. randome Dec 2013 #159

With respect, you dont know what data Snowden got his hands on any more than I. You dont know what rhett o rick Dec 2013 #160

When you have to start an argument with "if this were a totalitarian state," you're in denial. n/t winter is coming Dec 2013 #66

Indeed tavalon Dec 2013 #101

Thanks. I was a little surprised (and grateful) than no one else had already claimed it. n/t winter is coming Dec 2013 #132

That is my definition of stress tavalon Dec 2013 #100

& Obama has locked up millions, or tens of thousands at least Kolesar Dec 2013 #136

Exactly. People think the internet guarantees your freedom. indie9197 Dec 2013 #33

Circulating preposterous scenarios is a variation of a straw man argument. GoneFishin Dec 2013 #46

Facebook is one of the most powerful tools available to the NSA BlueStreak Dec 2013 #55

I swear, if the NSA odffered a new line of dual core, 64GB tracking chips BlueStreak Dec 2013 #57

Ah, you've been watching Person Of Interest tavalon Dec 2013 #102

One lives and hopes. savannah43 Dec 2013 #16

Unless, of course, they created Facebook to collect our information! Coyotl Dec 2013 #27

That would not be surprising at all. It was one of the first such forums to ask for so much personal sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #47

No Facebook Account here either, bvar22 Dec 2013 #125

I was asked my name and email address... Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2013 #129

Thats OK. You go right ahead. bvar22 Dec 2013 #142

Your professor had better hope they don't decide to take down the stage setting tavalon Dec 2013 #98

Introduce the Prof to Sheldon Wolin davekriss Dec 2013 #112

Technically he is correct. We are not yet in a totalitarian state per the definition. We may be rhett o rick Dec 2013 #114

In order to save face, OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #119

Well dont leave us in suspenders, what grade did you get? rhett o rick Dec 2013 #140

Like he thinks we haven't known that!! Why is it that no one can quite grasp a reality until some ancianita Dec 2013 #9

May I suggest that everyone buy a horse, too, and learn how to ride it. savannah43 Dec 2013 #17

I did not know WHAT they were using this data for. I did not know they were passing it along to sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #49

the info supporting binney's statement came out last august questionseverything Dec 2013 #151

Thank you, yes I remember that, that they were using the info to funnel to the DEA, but I did not sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #157

the nsa reduces us to questionseverything Dec 2013 #162

Great! Details! That are impossible to investigate with the PPPP in place, even for judges. ancianita Dec 2013 #153

Are you familiar with Binney at all? Binney is an NSA Whistle Blower who did NOT wait 'all this sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #156

Thank you. I'm not familiar with him. I'm now enlightened that he's been a crucial whistleblower. ancianita Dec 2013 #158

No problem, and I agree with you that people get tired of seeing the crimes exposed only to see sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #161

OK, mine is a stupid little anecdote, but I'm sure there are many more where like it so here goes... Snarkoleptic Dec 2013 #18

Same thing happened to me damnedifIknow Dec 2013 #35

There oughta be a law! FrodosPet Dec 2013 #20

At this point, christx30 Dec 2013 #21

They're spying on us (and, everybody else) to protect us from tyranny where everybody is spied on. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #23

All of the information gained by the NSA through spying is then shared with federal, state and local Coyotl Dec 2013 #24

Jeezus F'ing Christ, Phlem Dec 2013 #25

9/11 was just the Excuse. A Police State is the Goal. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #29

They started this crap BEFORE 911 Th1onein Dec 2013 #110

Well, duh! AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #31

In other breaking news, water is wet. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #32

Yes, but fish don't know they are wet. Nor do those living in the tblue37 Dec 2013 #34

We knew, and we still could speak to friends and stuff. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #89

But we're not in a police state.. sendero Dec 2013 #37

I'm sure people reading his article, while sitting in a coffee shop, JoePhilly Dec 2013 #38

The sad thing is damnedifIknow Dec 2013 #40

Now let's ask our totalitarian police state to provide Nationalized Health care. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #42

First world problems. joshcryer Dec 2013 #41

I get a kick out of anonymous people, using fake names, JoePhilly Dec 2013 #43

The real irony is if we had a absolutely free state... joshcryer Dec 2013 #44

Oh bull. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...... Th1onein Dec 2013 #109

So long as they don't exercise their first Amendment rights to protest, or become active in trying sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #51

Put it much more eloquently than I did. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #56

Now let's have our police state control health care. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #59

You're on the wrong axis. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #61

The authoritarians would use your JoePhilly Dec 2013 #63

That argument makes no sense at all. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #65

If we CURRENTLY live in a police state, the last thing you would want, at JoePhilly Dec 2013 #69

You've demonstrated consistently you don't know what a police state is. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #76

A police state, with control of the health care system, would JoePhilly Dec 2013 #79

Thank you. Bobbie Jo Dec 2013 #150

A police state doesn't have to be cartoonishly evil to be a police state. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #52

Ah, so we're pre nazi Germany again. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #60

So what's your definition of a police state? NuclearDem Dec 2013 #64

How many activists were mistreated, do you think? Less than one percent maybe? randome Dec 2013 #68

By freaking out, they ensure that answers to your questions JoePhilly Dec 2013 #71

Railing against an imaginary police state is easier than dealing with the real problems we face. randome Dec 2013 #74

It reminds me of ... JoePhilly Dec 2013 #77

A very interesting intersection, indeed. randome Dec 2013 #84

That is a very astute observation hueymahl Dec 2013 #131

Not every single activist has to be brutalized for the police to make their point. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #73

I think one of the recommendations for the NSA is to have a 'defendant advocate'. randome Dec 2013 #75

Except it took a document leak to even start the debate over the NSA. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #78

Well, they got 'caught' using a legal warrant. I guess we won't agree on how important that is. randome Dec 2013 #82

It got caught with a general warrant for Verizon's American customers. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #87

Your hyperbole is showing. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #70

I sense that you agree with Professor Stupid tavalon Dec 2013 #103

no, I'm home using paid wi-fi, drinking a beer and smoking a cigar fascisthunter Dec 2013 #146

We can't be in a police state. We have coffee, and wifi, and stuff. GoneFishin Dec 2013 #48

Cue the milk pic! NuclearDem Dec 2013 #50

One of Mussolini's first programs FatBuddy Dec 2013 #80

And health care! LondonReign2 Dec 2013 #138

It's hyperbole like this that make people tune out. randome Dec 2013 #53

It isn't hyperbole Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #72

If we are CURRENTLY a police state ... JoePhilly Dec 2013 #85

It's only hyperbole to those who believe they are safe from being targeted. But to the thousands sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #90

'Thousands'? More hyperbole. randome Dec 2013 #92

Thousands of OWS protesters were falsely arrested and jailed. Are you calling facts 'hyperbole' now? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #94

Here in Portland the FBI raided a house and arrested squatters involved in anti-corporate protests. Maedhros Dec 2013 #118

I guess we don't have to wonder where they got their info anymore. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #122

Just ignore it and it will go away. GoneFishin Dec 2013 #67

Police state and Democracy can not co-exist. L0oniX Dec 2013 #93

There doesn't seem to be a lot of remorse from Binney, considering he was one of the architects... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #96

Every couple of years he comes out with some new 'revelation' about the NSA. randome Dec 2013 #97

Before you get all judgmental... (too late) OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #104

ok...Thanks for this.... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #105

Some definitions and other info might help see more clearly. Mosaic Dec 2013 #99

It's getting very scary. Mojo Electro Dec 2013 #106

''Told ya!!!'' DeSwiss Dec 2013 #113

Recommend! KoKo Dec 2013 #116

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #120

You're welcome but I don't like reading it damnedifIknow Dec 2013 #127

Checks And Balances colsohlibgal Dec 2013 #123

Looks like the 0.0001% couldn't care less about neither 'our' liberty or security. Amonester Dec 2013 #126

I'm going to do myself a favor and bypass the nauseating pro-tolalitarian responses K&R whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #133

then you are making good use of your day Kolesar Dec 2013 #135

Knock, Knock, Knockin' on Stalin's door. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #137

Seems that way damnedifIknow Dec 2013 #141

Unfortunately it looks grim sadoldgirl Dec 2013 #139

Don't be sad. Betsy Ross Dec 2013 #152

I Noticed Something Very Interesting fascisthunter Dec 2013 #147

Now? This started under Bush. knitter4democracy Dec 2013 #154

Or here. Posted upthread, but it bears repeating. ancianita Dec 2013 #165

K&R woo me with science Dec 2013 #164

kick woo me with science Dec 2013 #167