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81. We need to support them when they appear on the scene. Not many have the courage to

Tue Jan 7, 2014, 02:46 PM

Jan 2014

blow the whistle on wrong doing in government. But when they do, they should be supported. And I believe that is happening now more than it used to. We AND they know that taking action such as exposing the crimes, will most likely result in what happened to Manning, or worse yet that 'example' didn't stop Snowden and the reaction to Snowden must be terrifying for the criminals in power because try as they have to smear him also, it isn't working so well for them anymore.

Since they went Global decades before we understood what they were up to, now the people are following and people like Snowden are becoming Global Heroes. I suppose they never expected the people to go global too such is their certainty that the people are merely fodder for their economic schemes.

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Powerful, and worth reading in its entirety. arcane1 Jan 2014 #17

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Defund, criminalize, and multi - million dollar awards and medals for leakers. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #38

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Possibly, what else is it to do but to sharpen the guillotine? TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #40

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Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2014 #41

You had me until this... farmbo Jan 2014 #44

How strongly have the newscasters on MSNBC denounced the NSA surveillance? JDPriestly Jan 2014 #54

She has exposed the NSA fig leaf: "We're Just Fighting Terrorists" farmbo Jan 2014 #70

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F.O.S. n/t Titonwan Jan 2014 #77

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