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6. Four points:

Reply to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2014, 07:04 PM

Jan 2014

1) COINTELPRO was an illegal operation.

2) These individuals didn't insert themselves into the story, overshadowing the objective of exposing the operation.

3) Ellsberg didn't flee the country and didn't try to become the story.

4) Greenwald states: "Note, too, that these activists didn't turn themselves in and plead to be put in prison by the U.S. Government for decades, but instead purposely did everything possible to avoid arrest."

It's possible for Snowden to remain in Russia until the statute of limitations runs out. The alternative is to return to the U.S. and face the consequences.

It seems that Greenwald is suggesting that isn't an option.

Senator Sanders comments on Snowden
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024292659

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