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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
40. Teachers take money for teaching, yet they have integrity.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 03:50 PM
Jan 2014

Artists create and are copied, and that is honorable.

Scientists make discoveries that have dual-use, and civilization advances.

Why anyone would follow a NAZI is another issue, one that I wish Congress had asked Allen Dulles, specifically, about.



Just before his death, James Jesus Angleton, the legendary chief of counterintelligence at the Central Intelligence Agency, was a bitter man. He felt betrayed by the people he had worked for all his life. In the end, he had come to realize that they were never really interested in American ideals of "freedom" and "democracy." They really only wanted "absolute power."

Angleton told author Joseph Trento that the reason he had gotten the counterintelligence job in the first place was by agreeing not to submit "sixty of Allen Dulles' closest friends" to a polygraph test concerning their business deals with the Nazis. In his end-of-life despair, Angleton assumed that he would see all his old companions again "in hell."

-- Michael Hasty, "Paranoid Shift"

SOURCE (web archive of Online Journal article): https://web.archive.org/web/20040202191752/http://onlinejournal.com/Commentary/011004Hasty/011004hasty.html



Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch represent just one aspect of the NAZI connection to the undemocratic arts of propaganda. The role of propaganda in service of the secret government is another aspect that receives near-zero mention in the press or history books, yet while we feel its impact 24/7, most cannot see its influence all around us.

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She did do some interesting and innovative work. Film students Cleita Jan 2014 #1
The author said Ailes admired Riefenstahl's camera work... Octafish Jan 2014 #4
the OP says Ailes admired her "cinematic talent as a propagandist" phantom power Jan 2014 #9
Clearly he's even a bigger fan of Goebbels. nt onehandle Jan 2014 #2
Ich höre Sie. Octafish Jan 2014 #5
And we read about forced hysterectomies mikeysnot Mar 2021 #43
1000 Tom Ripley Jan 2014 #19
She was a roundbreaking filmmaker whos art has stood the test of time and is still studied by film kelly1mm Jan 2014 #3
Great. She still sucked up to the NAZIs -- and so do too many US pols... Octafish Jan 2014 #6
Both are true. Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #25
I admit, her work is amazing nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #7
For me: Genius in the employ of evil changes the quality of the work. Octafish Jan 2014 #11
Presumably, then, you think Shoeless Joe should not be in the HoF.:) malthaussen Jan 2014 #17
Re: Genius in the employ of evil changes the quality of the work. BarackTheVote Jan 2014 #37
And don't get me started about anyone who likes Volkswagen Beetles. Throd Jan 2014 #8
Roger Ailes drives in a bigger car. Octafish Jan 2014 #12
Her work was a part of my studies in film school. zappaman Jan 2014 #10
Your work must be epic. Octafish Jan 2014 #13
Send me your script, Brad. zappaman Jan 2014 #15
R#8 & K for, all the more proficient wingnuts are but don't tell anybody UTUSN Jan 2014 #14
The Vulgar Pigboy enjoyed a meteoric rise to help America become more racist, bigoted and NAZI like. Octafish Jan 2014 #18
Her film Olympia on the 1936 Olympics is amazing. edbermac Jan 2014 #16
She didn't mention Marty Glickman getting benched by Avery Brundage, did she? Octafish Jan 2014 #23
Yeah, but what about Woody Allen? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #20
''Bananas'' was a great movie. Octafish Jan 2014 #27
So is everybody who loves "O Fortuna" a Nazi sympathizer too? cemaphonic Jan 2014 #21
No. But I do know a NAZI when I hear one speak. Octafish Jan 2014 #30
Not surprised. ananda Jan 2014 #22
Most Americans are unaware of the CIA-NAZI links... Octafish Jan 2014 #31
Most serious students of film admire her techniques, not her content REP Jan 2014 #24
Rupert Murdoch, who pays Ailes, helped lie America into war on Iraq. Octafish Jan 2014 #32
Peas from the same pod? indepat Jan 2014 #26
How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis Octafish Jan 2014 #34
Thanks for posting this expose every American should be aware of indepat Jan 2014 #35
No wonder they love making Hitler comparisons! Guess it takes one to know one! Initech Jan 2014 #28
Pfui Savannahmann Jan 2014 #29
Teachers take money for teaching, yet they have integrity. Octafish Jan 2014 #40
Has anyone read Gabriel Sherman's book yet? nt octoberlib Jan 2014 #33
Truly looking forward to adding it to my lie-bury. Octafish Jan 2014 #39
Hugenberg, more like it (Riefenstahl would never allow anything so garish) MisterP Jan 2014 #36
Vielen Dank, MisterP. Octafish Jan 2014 #38
The recruitment of NAZIS by various agencies and organizations of The United States of America isn't bobthedrummer Jan 2014 #41
Perception Management™ at Work Octafish Jan 2014 #42
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