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woo me with science

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Sat Jan 18, 2014, 02:19 PM Jan 2014

NSA spying and inequality are deeply, inextricably linked. [View all]

It is deeply disingenuous to try to argue that they aren't related, or that people focusing on one are ignoring the other.

They are deeply, intimately connected.

Why do plutocrats put a sweeping, Constitution-assaulting, spying infrastructure into place? To create total information awareness, power and control; to spy on competitors and politicians; to facilitate their corporate predatory agenda; to prevent investigation of their abuses by a free press; and to crush dissent by protesters and the citizens they are systematically exploiting, stripping of their rights, and impoverishing.

Caring about poverty REQUIRES that we take a powerful stand against this government spying. This sort of government abuse enables every corporate outrage that is the CAUSE of the poverty we are talking about.





What is the NSA really for?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024215519

"Clear evidence of collusion between TransCanada and the federal government assisting local police to unlawfully monitor and harass political protestors”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023049508

Corporate Espionage and the Secret War Against Citizen Activism
http://www.democraticunderground.com/111643982

NSA Spying Not Very Focused on Terrorism: Power, Money and Crushing Dissent Are Real Motives Ops
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023923016

Keiser Report: CIA, NSA & Economic Espionage (E498) (second half with Greg Palast)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017146372

Spooky Business: Corporate Espionage Against Non-profits
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024106205

NSA data could be most useful for connected types on Wall Street.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022983519

NSA spied on EU's Anti Trust Chief
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024204596

2011: Wall Street firms spy on protesters with police in tax-funded center
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023286585

OUTRAGEOUS: Our Tax Money Funds Gov Surveillance Center In Lower Manhattan--& Wall St Is Part Of It!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2178769

Report Details How Counter Terrorism Apparatus Was Used to Monitor Occupy Movement Nationwide
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12527647

NSA Monitors Porn Habits To Discredit 'Radicalizers'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024099994

How FBI Monitored Occupy Movement
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101651867

FBI started surveillance of Occupy before it occupied
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022930860

Wall Street Protesters Complain of Police Surveillance
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101618930

Whoop, There It Is... 'Evidence Homeland Security Coordinated Occupy Crackdown' -
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002462465

ACLU discovers FBI is labeling peace activists as 'potential terrorists'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4500788

Why is FBI Manufacturing Reasons to Arrest Occupy Protesters, Ignoring White Supremacist Violence
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12522821

DHS Tracked Occupy Wall Street to 'Control Protesters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101463537

'Occupy' crackdowns coordinated with federal law enforcement officials
http://www.examiner.com/top-news-in-minneapolis/were-occupy-crackdowns-aided-by-federal-law-enforcement-agencies

FBI uses new powers to bug anti-war groups
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x237625

ACLU: FBI instructs police to suppress peaceful protests
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x253574

Ridiculous FBI list: You might be a domestic terrorist if ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1790765

American Protesters Declared Enemy for Weapons Testing Purposes; Rules of Engagement
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2132808#2139011

DoD Training Manual: Protests are "Low-Level Terrorism"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/100227662

NSA, DEA fabricating evidence trails to imprison Americans using spying.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023406605

ACLU: On revenge and the NSA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023491532

On the Espionage Act charges against Edward Snowden Glenn Greenwald
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023066929

US Uses Espionage Act To Convict Manning Using Words Added In 1990: "with a computer"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023375845

Fed Court: Just changed interpretation of Espionage Act to cover leaks that are NOT Harmful To USA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023365713

Obama's abuse of the Espionage Act is modern-day McCarthyism
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023413935

NY Times: White House Uses Espionage Act to Silence Employees, Press
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101616764

Obama Has Charged More Under Espionage Act Than All Other Presidents Combined
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023080388

A Nation of "Suspects"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x5011487
http://www.truth-out.org/nation-suspects/1314810046

That magic word, "terrorism." The government's identification of those needing further scrutiny
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022730456#post13

Do You Like Online Privacy? You May Be a Terrorist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002257966

"Arrogant complaining about airport security is one indicator Transportation Security Administration officers consider when looking for possible criminals and terrorists"
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/tsa.screeners.complain/

Top US counterterrorism official: drone critics are Al Qaeda enablers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002279862


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yes indeed. librechik Jan 2014 #1
But..but..but.. Obama...and the government knows best quinnox Jan 2014 #2
The corporatists are gearing up for an election year, woo me with science Jan 2014 #12
Setting us up for another bait and switch, '08 style? n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #13
They want to control the narrative, woo me with science Jan 2014 #15
I noticed that also, how the board was flooded with attacks on a DEMOCRAT as soon sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #37
illegal prosecutions are just icing on the cake questionseverything Jan 2014 #14
Fabrication of evidence trails against American citizens... woo me with science Jan 2014 #16
Yup. agreed. Since the NSA hasn't stopped any terrorist attacks its obvious its existence is for riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #3
This is ProSense Jan 2014 #4
I agree with you PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #11
"mumbo jumbo" - Excelent summary. (nm) reACTIONary Jan 2014 #30
And it's Corporate influence that is responsible for the massive Spying program, as Bernie said, sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #38
Thank you for the hopeless effort. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #56
Absolutely, who is arguing that they aren't related? siligut Jan 2014 #5
Exactly. This isn't new, or unique to the US. nt redqueen Jan 2014 #6
built to control the message questionseverything Jan 2014 #7
Wow. Gotta K&R this. nt riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #9
This should be an OP. woo me with science Jan 2014 #17
dod working with bank of america to stifle reporters questionseverything Jan 2014 #19
It is corrupt and disturbing beyond words. woo me with science Jan 2014 #21
HB Gary, exposed, and that is why we see all the Smears against Greenwald. Someone else sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #39
some are still following the trail questionseverything Jan 2014 #41
Thank you. The story just seemed to die after the Congressional Committee sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #43
Why do you hate Murika? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #8
KR El_Johns Jan 2014 #10
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #18
bookmarking ...saving to .doc L0oniX Jan 2014 #20
Some here would pretend we have not lived with 30 years of 'trickle down' economics Rex Jan 2014 #22
See post 21. I really do think woo me with science Jan 2014 #24
I agree and it has totally saturated the media both on cable and here on the WWW. Rex Jan 2014 #26
What an incredible waste. woo me with science Jan 2014 #33
Over 50 years in politics in bed with corporate ownership. Rex Jan 2014 #36
Yep...K&R zeemike Jan 2014 #23
We had an interesting short interlude there in human history, woo me with science Jan 2014 #42
Amen! All our grievances are related... JackRiddler Jan 2014 #25
"All our grievances are related." woo me with science Jan 2014 #34
that's why I always though of Occupy as a civil rights movement BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #46
"beautiful" arely staircase Jan 2014 #27
This is what the NSA appologists fail to admit LiberalLovinLug Jan 2014 #28
WTF? jazzimov Jan 2014 #29
K&R Just look at the establishment of the U.S. intelligence agencies. Who has run them Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #31
+1 woo me with science Jan 2014 #32
Recommend jsr Jan 2014 #35
This is especially true in Soviet Russia... joshcryer Jan 2014 #40
The Soviet Union is ancient history now Yakov Fumesucker Jan 2014 #48
But the methods are employed to this day. joshcryer Jan 2014 #49
As we have been told repeatedly, *everybody* does it, that's why it's OK Fumesucker Jan 2014 #50
I am agreeing domestic spying = impoverishment. joshcryer Jan 2014 #51
You seem to be responding to an argument no one is making Fumesucker Jan 2014 #52
*You* are the one responding to an argument no one is making. joshcryer Jan 2014 #54
You might not be making the argument but someone here is Fumesucker Jan 2014 #55
Who? Absurd. joshcryer Jan 2014 #59
Oh, it's an argument the clacque is rather fond of n/t Fumesucker Jan 2014 #61
Only whistleblowers can watch the watchers these days, but too many people LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #53
They could never get away with the shit they do without all the surveillance and intimidation. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #44
for posterity. BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #45
+38 another excellent compilation. Thx solarhydrocan Jan 2014 #47
Compiled by somebody who does not *do*anything about poverty or domestic spying Kolesar Jan 2014 #57
When few understand, what is more important than witing about this? Octafish Jan 2014 #60
du rec. xchrom Jan 2014 #58
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