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zipplewrath

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33. What is a reasonable cost for your free speach rights?

Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:40 AM

Jan 2014

You don't clearly legislate who will be required to pay for their rights, and who will be exempt from paying because they won't have them. You don't tax people who practice their first amendment rights more than some maximum amount with a "cadillac tax". You don't outline the amount of out of pocket money will allowed to be charged in order to exercise their right to avoid self incrimination.

As I say, read the law, there's nothing in there establishing health CARE as a right, only about the obligations of citizens, employers, and the states with respect to health INSURANCE. And the SC established that the states are NOT obligated to extend health insurance to certain low income classes.

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How Obama and the Democrats failed to defend the universal right to healthcare [View all] marmar Jan 2014 OP

du rec. xchrom Jan 2014 #1

Obama is Satan, for sure!!! nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #2

"excluding single-payer healthcare from consideration" solarhydrocan Jan 2014 #3

So says some guy who has provided increased geek tragedy Jan 2014 #4

This particular 'some guy' is a Chicago labor leader who thinks PBO owes him. He gets little msanthrope Jan 2014 #7

The ''reinforced conservative mantras'' parts really bug me. Octafish Jan 2014 #5

Hot Coffee MinM Jan 2014 #13

Wesley Clark was on NPR 'The Takeaway' this morning and talked about ''Bob Gates''... Octafish Jan 2014 #15

Yes, but I don't think Dems conceded to "Tea Party fearmongering" - but... polichick Jan 2014 #6

You can't defend something you don't have, Progressive dog Jan 2014 #8

^^ Spin control is terribly uncreative these days. marmar Jan 2014 #9

You're on a roll today, marmar! Thank you for representing the democratic arm of the loudsue Jan 2014 #10

New numbers for the ACA roll out must have come out. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #11

The Greens and Libertarians don't like the ACA numbers any more than the Repubs do. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #14

"That principle now is here to stay." ProSense Jan 2014 #12

It's done no such thing zipplewrath Jan 2014 #22

You ProSense Jan 2014 #24

Read the law zipplewrath Jan 2014 #25

Good grief ProSense Jan 2014 #27

What is a reasonable cost for your free speach rights? zipplewrath Jan 2014 #33

That comment makes no sense, and still has nothing to do with the point. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #34

The point is that the is no established universal right to health care zipplewrath Jan 2014 #35

And ProSense Jan 2014 #36

You mean law zipplewrath Jan 2014 #37

OK ProSense Jan 2014 #38

You "principal" has no effect zipplewrath Jan 2014 #39

It's "principle" ProSense Jan 2014 #40

The law opposes the principal zipplewrath Jan 2014 #41

There's a very large problem with this article. jeff47 Jan 2014 #16

Canada's private health insurance companies were never as well entrenched as in the USA Fumesucker Jan 2014 #17

The similarity is the states/provinces go first, then the national system follows. jeff47 Jan 2014 #18

The insurance companies are becoming more entrenched by the day Fumesucker Jan 2014 #19

If that were true, the insurance industry wouldn't be giving their political contributions jeff47 Jan 2014 #20

Under the American form of government you can't really buy a politician Fumesucker Jan 2014 #28

Again, how exactly would the insurance industry stop it in all blue states? (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #30

The same way they got a Democratic president to kill the public option we were promised Fumesucker Jan 2014 #31

So you think they'll turn blue states red. jeff47 Jan 2014 #32

^^^This!^^^ BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #29

Next OP will be How the purist left blames Obama for the purist lefts inaction of not voting in 2010 uponit7771 Jan 2014 #21

Repetez en anglais, s'il vous plait? marmar Jan 2014 #23

Usual myth zipplewrath Jan 2014 #26