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34. Chelsea Manning is Military....FAR FAR worse treatment if you are military

Reply to OnyxCollie (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 1, 2014, 12:00 AM

Feb 2014

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Should Snowden Have Run Away? [View all] Bragi Jan 2014 OP

OMG MORE with the comparisons to MLK and Ghandi? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #1

Read the OP Bragi Jan 2014 #5

Duh...but still...who could even not see that that it has to even BE said... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #16

What he uncovered would not have been known if he had stayed in the US. Lint Head Jan 2014 #2

says who? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #27

And there will be changes at the NSA caused by the actions of that scalded dog. Lint Head Feb 2014 #46

He still ain't no hero.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #47

Who said he was a hero? Many "heroes" have criticized the US. Even the Founding Fathers did that. Lint Head Feb 2014 #54

This THREAD is about that...... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #59

It is, VA... sheshe2 Feb 2014 #61

This thread is not about hero worship or heroes. Do you call every discussion about Snowden Lint Head Feb 2014 #90

B.S. We know. He saw what happened to others who tried to blow the whistle through snot Feb 2014 #72

Do you know ANYTHING about this.. sendero Feb 2014 #77

Agreed. Nt newfie11 Feb 2014 #69

America didn't torture then the way it does now MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #3

You might want to study up on the 50s and 60s before you talk out of place and time. A woman struggle4progress Jan 2014 #11

No question, bad things were done then. Awful things. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #18

You don't know what "of consequence" might be in the 730K documents Manning released: struggle4progress Jan 2014 #25

The military admitted this. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #29

Your rhetoric is useless to me: it wanders too quickly from facts that can be analyzed struggle4progress Feb 2014 #56

Dear Lord! MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #60

Reitman founded the "Bradley Manning Support Network" according her link at that website struggle4progress Feb 2014 #62

You seriously think what happened to OWS is WORSE than what happened in the 60's? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #28

No, it wasn't. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #35

Look up what happened at Jackson State eleven days later struggle4progress Feb 2014 #40

an anomaly.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #42

Sorry, you're wrong, way wrong brush Feb 2014 #81

You don't remember the Nixon era very well, do you? We had COINTELPRO, Nixon's use of the IRS struggle4progress Jan 2014 #17

How many Americans did Nixon imprison and torture as enemies of the state? MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #21

How many did Nixon have shot dead on a college campus? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #31

Zero. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #33

None were killed protesting? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #44

Nixon had them shot dead? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #49

did you read the blurb....and are you saying Obama directly himself made the orders against VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #51

Rhetorical questions are not a substantial substitute for factual analysis. struggle4progress Feb 2014 #37

What whistleblower got tortured? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #48

Ever hear of Bradley or Chelsea Manning? Octafish Feb 2014 #89

Are people really comparing Snowden to MLK and Ghandi? seriously? uppityperson Jan 2014 #4

Huh? People? nt Bragi Jan 2014 #6

I understand your OP says why you can not, and I am asking if people are. Aside from how they are uppityperson Jan 2014 #7

YES they are...right here.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #19

"And a Virgin Mary in a pear tree!" randome Feb 2014 #91

I don't believe in pear trees VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #92

Ahhh . . . MLK was not in jail but for a short time . . . brush Feb 2014 #84

Yes. I know it offends your sensibilities but they are, and rightly so. last1standing Jan 2014 #8

My my my, don't you get tired? Making all those assumptions, jumping to those conclusions? uppityperson Jan 2014 #10

LOL! I did long jump in highschool. last1standing Jan 2014 #13

I seldom post in GD these days as it seems snark is the major comeback. I hold MLK and Ghandi uppityperson Jan 2014 #20

Most of us are far too guilty. last1standing Jan 2014 #30

Totally agree with yr take on Snowden, MLK and Ghandi... Violet_Crumble Feb 2014 #73

That is in NO WAY the same kind of "suffering" those men endured... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #22

<sigh> Adrahil Feb 2014 #80

No. The OP is about why Snowden's situation is NOT like MLK or Ghandi riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #12

Good grief. uppityperson Jan 2014 #15

Let's ask Chelsea Manning if Snowden should have stayed. OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #9

What is your theory about how the US should proceed against persons who appear to be organizing struggle4progress Jan 2014 #24

summary execution , of course Rumold Feb 2014 #66

Sarcasm isn't particularly informative. al-Awlaki was demonstrably in contact with struggle4progress Feb 2014 #67

there is no sarcasm Rumold Feb 2014 #76

Chelsea Manning is Military....FAR FAR worse treatment if you are military VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #34

I am not sure how staying could have helped him arely staircase Jan 2014 #14

hmmmmm you may just have a point there... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #36

Was there a break in this story that I didn't hear? n/t TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #57

Fuckin' YUP. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #23

He went to a country where individual rights are held in the highest esteem Agnosticsherbet Jan 2014 #26

Safe from assassination by Predator drone in Hong Kong and Russia. OnyxCollie Feb 2014 #39

He is in a country that protects the rights of its people to be free Agnosticsherbet Feb 2014 #43

When the leader of the free world OnyxCollie Feb 2014 #55

+ infinity!!! newfie11 Feb 2014 #70

the intellectual dishonesty of those who completely avoid the point.... mike_c Jan 2014 #32

YES He HAS! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #38

Was MLK or Ghandi charged with Espionage? Guess I missed that one. This two are Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #41

No. He's doing more good now than if he were in a federal prison. rug Feb 2014 #45

he still ain't no hero.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #50

Hero, schmero. He's revealing important things. rug Feb 2014 #52

THIS thread is about the Hero worshipping of him.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #53

...no, it isn't. Union Scribe Feb 2014 #63

and whether or not that makes him a "hero" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #64

That really isn't what the article is about. Union Scribe Feb 2014 #65

Quite so! nt Bragi Feb 2014 #86

Like a little sneaky thief in the night?.. Cha Feb 2014 #58

Perhaps forcing Snowden to stay in Russia and seek asylum there was a mistake? bemildred Feb 2014 #88

He'd been in a hole for the next 25 years or so if he did. redgreenandblue Feb 2014 #68

Can we afford to reject any good anyone does for us? snot Feb 2014 #71

There is an old saying Savannahmann Feb 2014 #74

Just to reiterate: Reason is a RW libertarian propaganda outlet. baldguy Feb 2014 #75

I see that Bragi Feb 2014 #87

Hey, here's an idea. randome Feb 2014 #78

Post-factual speculation is fun but pointless. The fact is he split. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #79

Did Paul Revere run away?...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #82

You missed your opportunity. randome Feb 2014 #85

Never seen anyone compare him to MLK or Gandhi. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #83