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In reply to the discussion: Should Snowden Have Run Away? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)89. Ever hear of Bradley or Chelsea Manning?
THE TORTURE OF BRADLEY MANNING
After more than 900 days of detainment in United States military jails for allegedly disclosing state secrets, the haunting imprisonment of accused WikiLeaks source Pfc. Bradley Manning was discussed in court for the first time at the latest round of pretrial motion hearings that began on Nov. 27 in Fort Meade, MD. Below is an account of those court proceedings. The case will continue intermittently into 2013.
By Andrew Blake
Vice.com
EXCERPT...
When a forensic psychiatrist was eventually commissioned to assess Manning at the brig, repeated recommendations were made to remove him from protected watch, which left him forced to cover himself with only a suicide smock and bedding that resembled something between a cardboard box and a liquidation sale rug. Those professional suggestions were all ignored in favor of the guards own instincts. Many of those staffers testified that they were trained in corrections for one month at an Air Force base in Texas and rightfully admitted that the guidelines for dealing and assessing with a suicide case they were taught there were thrown out the window when Private Manning arrived.
On Saturday afternoon, five days into the latest round of hearings, Quantico Staff Sgt. Fuller acknowledged that he routinely signed off on keeping Pfc. Manning a max custody detainee, and cited his reasons specifically for the court.
Those times that I actually did have interaction or communication with Manning, it seemed he was distant, withdrawn, or isolated. That gave me cause for concern, he told the court. When asked him to explain why he was worried, Fuller said, Im not sure why. You really couldnt get him to talk.
Quantico guards also testified that for initial health evaluations, a dentist was the qualified physician tasked with assessing Mannings mental wellbeing.
Why were you getting weekly updates from a dentist as opposed getting them directly from a forensic psychiatrist? Coombs asked Col. Choike.
She was the commanding officer, he said.
At Quantico, Pfc. Manning treatment wasnt by the book: the sleep depravation and stripping of clothes; the humiliation; the taunts and mockery; the nine months of putting Pfc. Manning in protected custody citing concerns over suicideconcerns that were rebuffed relentlessly by both Pfc. Manning himself and qualified psychiatrists. Thats why Coombs is looking to have the case against his client thrown out, and Mannings own testimony this week only accentuated the living nightmare he was made to endure for nearly a year while only a half-hour drive from the capital of the nation. As testimonies from Quantico staff, health professionals, and the private himself continued late into the night all week, often for hours without intermissions, more unraveled about not just the torturous conditions imposed on Pfc. Manning but the blatant mismanagement in the same institution he is accused of blowing the whistle on.
CONTINUED...
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/the-torture-of-bradley-manning
After more than 900 days of detainment in United States military jails for allegedly disclosing state secrets, the haunting imprisonment of accused WikiLeaks source Pfc. Bradley Manning was discussed in court for the first time at the latest round of pretrial motion hearings that began on Nov. 27 in Fort Meade, MD. Below is an account of those court proceedings. The case will continue intermittently into 2013.
By Andrew Blake
Vice.com
EXCERPT...
When a forensic psychiatrist was eventually commissioned to assess Manning at the brig, repeated recommendations were made to remove him from protected watch, which left him forced to cover himself with only a suicide smock and bedding that resembled something between a cardboard box and a liquidation sale rug. Those professional suggestions were all ignored in favor of the guards own instincts. Many of those staffers testified that they were trained in corrections for one month at an Air Force base in Texas and rightfully admitted that the guidelines for dealing and assessing with a suicide case they were taught there were thrown out the window when Private Manning arrived.
On Saturday afternoon, five days into the latest round of hearings, Quantico Staff Sgt. Fuller acknowledged that he routinely signed off on keeping Pfc. Manning a max custody detainee, and cited his reasons specifically for the court.
Those times that I actually did have interaction or communication with Manning, it seemed he was distant, withdrawn, or isolated. That gave me cause for concern, he told the court. When asked him to explain why he was worried, Fuller said, Im not sure why. You really couldnt get him to talk.
Quantico guards also testified that for initial health evaluations, a dentist was the qualified physician tasked with assessing Mannings mental wellbeing.
Why were you getting weekly updates from a dentist as opposed getting them directly from a forensic psychiatrist? Coombs asked Col. Choike.
She was the commanding officer, he said.
At Quantico, Pfc. Manning treatment wasnt by the book: the sleep depravation and stripping of clothes; the humiliation; the taunts and mockery; the nine months of putting Pfc. Manning in protected custody citing concerns over suicideconcerns that were rebuffed relentlessly by both Pfc. Manning himself and qualified psychiatrists. Thats why Coombs is looking to have the case against his client thrown out, and Mannings own testimony this week only accentuated the living nightmare he was made to endure for nearly a year while only a half-hour drive from the capital of the nation. As testimonies from Quantico staff, health professionals, and the private himself continued late into the night all week, often for hours without intermissions, more unraveled about not just the torturous conditions imposed on Pfc. Manning but the blatant mismanagement in the same institution he is accused of blowing the whistle on.
CONTINUED...
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/the-torture-of-bradley-manning
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Duh...but still...who could even not see that that it has to even BE said...
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#16
And there will be changes at the NSA caused by the actions of that scalded dog.
Lint Head
Feb 2014
#46
Who said he was a hero? Many "heroes" have criticized the US. Even the Founding Fathers did that.
Lint Head
Feb 2014
#54
This thread is not about hero worship or heroes. Do you call every discussion about Snowden
Lint Head
Feb 2014
#90
B.S. We know. He saw what happened to others who tried to blow the whistle through
snot
Feb 2014
#72
You might want to study up on the 50s and 60s before you talk out of place and time. A woman
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#11
You don't know what "of consequence" might be in the 730K documents Manning released:
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#25
Your rhetoric is useless to me: it wanders too quickly from facts that can be analyzed
struggle4progress
Feb 2014
#56
Reitman founded the "Bradley Manning Support Network" according her link at that website
struggle4progress
Feb 2014
#62
You seriously think what happened to OWS is WORSE than what happened in the 60's?
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#28
You don't remember the Nixon era very well, do you? We had COINTELPRO, Nixon's use of the IRS
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#17
How many Americans did Nixon imprison and torture as enemies of the state?
MannyGoldstein
Jan 2014
#21
did you read the blurb....and are you saying Obama directly himself made the orders against
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2014
#51
Rhetorical questions are not a substantial substitute for factual analysis.
struggle4progress
Feb 2014
#37
I understand your OP says why you can not, and I am asking if people are. Aside from how they are
uppityperson
Jan 2014
#7
My my my, don't you get tired? Making all those assumptions, jumping to those conclusions?
uppityperson
Jan 2014
#10
I seldom post in GD these days as it seems snark is the major comeback. I hold MLK and Ghandi
uppityperson
Jan 2014
#20
What is your theory about how the US should proceed against persons who appear to be organizing
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#24
Sarcasm isn't particularly informative. al-Awlaki was demonstrably in contact with
struggle4progress
Feb 2014
#67
Chelsea Manning is Military....FAR FAR worse treatment if you are military
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2014
#34
He went to a country where individual rights are held in the highest esteem
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2014
#26
Was MLK or Ghandi charged with Espionage? Guess I missed that one. This two are
Thinkingabout
Feb 2014
#41
Perhaps forcing Snowden to stay in Russia and seek asylum there was a mistake?
bemildred
Feb 2014
#88