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Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:10 PM

Feb 2014

"I see alot of posts attacking the messenger that seem unwilling to discuss the message."

...post pointing out that Ford is a disingenuous bastard and showing where is claims are false.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024419298#post98

I mean the asshole claims the SOTU is a "festival of lies," points out that the President supported a minimum wage of 9.50, and then attacks him for stating that he will use an executive action to raise the minimum wage for federal contract workers to $10.10.

Is one of the "festival of lies" that the President once supported a lower wage?

The asshole then goes on to make a completely dishonest claim that the number of workers affected by the action will be "zero."

The "festival of lies" is Ford's bullshit and desperate distortion.

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American State of the Union: A Festival of Lies [View all] Octafish Jan 2014 OP

Thank you so much for posting this idiot's article! tridim Jan 2014 #1

The idiot's article is quit insightful. RC Jan 2014 #4

No kidding BainsBane Jan 2014 #14

yep heaven05 Jan 2014 #16

Facts matter, even if one does not like them. RC Jan 2014 #21

That in no way addresses my point BainsBane Jan 2014 #25

So what you're saying is that we should accept the fact that our sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #124

Can you not read that response again and realize.... Sheepshank Jan 2014 #162

Did you ever answer the question 'why did the US Government trap sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #173

another typical MO...deflect. The predictability is tiresome. n/t Sheepshank Jan 2014 #179

Yes, the predictability of those who try to deflect from inconvenient questions sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #210

got yer six, gurl. Titonwan Jan 2014 #169

I dont't expect people to be silent about issues BainsBane Feb 2014 #486

Unions? nt clarice Jan 2014 #127

Hope and CHANGE?!?!? democratisphere Feb 2014 #454

There is always the GOP BainsBane Feb 2014 #487

Well at least you agree he's just a lying corporate tool while you're being rude and condescending. cui bono Jan 2014 #154

That's how I read the comment too Generic Other Jan 2014 #221

You read wrong BainsBane Jan 2014 #297

No, you did not understand my post BainsBane Jan 2014 #287

So, money talks and bullshit walks.... SammyWinstonJack Jan 2014 #286

Yeah cause he needs money for re-election!1! JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #26

Bullshit, starts of with Bush dismissive winger meme bullshit uponit7771 Jan 2014 #43

And continue with Obama's keeping many of bu$h's appointees in place and appointing RC Jan 2014 #61

Apparently, it's okay if Obama does it. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2014 #294

For too many people around here it absolutely is. RC Jan 2014 #304

The President "danced like Mr. Bojangles to get around the issues at hand," is insightful? msanthrope Feb 2014 #449

Why don't you post a few facts to counter his arguments? Octafish Jan 2014 #5

I don't respond to idiot rantings. Sometimes people just are. tridim Jan 2014 #6

So, inside your head you contain all you need to know. Octafish Jan 2014 #10

that's a cheesy excuse. you don't respond because you haven't the ability to cali Jan 2014 #13

Sometimes the truth is harsh. zeemike Jan 2014 #22

Facts are just things to annoy the dedicated. obxhead Jan 2014 #41

Um, what was reply #1 all about then? hootinholler Jan 2014 #37

"I don't respond to idiot rantings. Sometimes people just are." Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #103

Do you support the TPP and are you familiar at all with the 'idiot' who sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #129

Yes I've read his anti-Democrat, anti-Obama articles before. There are many. tridim Jan 2014 #139

Do you support the President's position on the TPP? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #159

Is that a rhetorical question? (< this is a rhetorical question). nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #188

Not really. I'm looking for a starting point before attempting to sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #216

Keep trying but I dont think you will get any of them to commit. They support whatever rhett o rick Jan 2014 #218

For some reason I'm imagining having dropped a fish on the pier and frantically ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #229

So you're against the anti-democratic attempt at pushing through TPP without public debate? cui bono Jan 2014 #161

Are you familiar with Glen Ford?... SidDithers Jan 2014 #151

Do you support the TPP? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #156

Arent you falling for the distraction? I have a hunch that he supports whatever Pres rhett o rick Jan 2014 #190

I would like people to be clear about where they stand. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #213

They put loyalty above principles. I have asked over and over for someone rhett o rick Jan 2014 #217

True and it's a shock to see that here on DU frankly where people used to sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #225

Several weeks ago, I was watching a debate about TPP on TV Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #320

Lucky them, at least their government is apparently aware of what is in it. Our Congress sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #321

Even the best estimates show TPP to be essentially a zero-sum game for Japan Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #323

I wish we had some assessment of the losses we would suffer here. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #324

The prime minister is for the TPP Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #325

I haven't heard any, either. Titonwan Feb 2014 #388

Hard to believe I would see Democrats or progressives supporting Glen Ford zappaman Jan 2014 #158

Only if you can't think for your self. Titonwan Jan 2014 #166

You certainly have the right to support Glen Ford. zappaman Jan 2014 #167

I am trying to get an answer to this question, maybe you would be sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #222

I'm not familiar with him but that doesn't sound like a RW talking point to me. cui bono Jan 2014 #168

Sorry. zappaman Jan 2014 #170

So what do you think about what I put forth in my post? cui bono Jan 2014 #172

That comment had nothing to do with Ford. Do you agree with the Dems in sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #319

The most honest post here, bar none. Titonwan Jan 2014 #174

^ that 840high Jan 2014 #316

Hard to believe that a Democrat would support the TPP. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #189

You dont even know what is in the TPP Egnever Jan 2014 #245

LOL! +100! zappaman Jan 2014 #254

What I do know is not good. Do you know anything good? Do you like NAFTA? WTO? CAFTA? rhett o rick Jan 2014 #258

really? You know all that? Egnever Jan 2014 #264

I think that's just fine if you want to wait. But while you are waiting it isnt cool to disparage rhett o rick Jan 2014 #268

And since you brought up the "B" word, I think we should address that. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #267

Maybe because like you Egnever Jan 2014 #272

Only those with their fingers in their ears and their eyes closed dont know. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #283

None of that is fact and that is the point Egnever Jan 2014 #290

How do you know if they are facts or not? You told us you didnt know anything about it. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #329

Um, yes we do know what is in some of it, thanks to Wikileaks. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #386

Once again Egnever Feb 2014 #406

Said zappaman, the DUer who supports Allen Dulles, J Edgar Hoover and Gerald Ford. Octafish Feb 2014 #361

Nice bullshit dude. zappaman Feb 2014 #379

This same guy is on satellite radio all the time bashing Obama on the Mark Thompson Show brush Jan 2014 #243

the lame reply of someone without a compelling counter argument.... mike_c Jan 2014 #255

Easy, Bush crashed the economy with winger econ policies and handed the rich no strings money... uponit7771 Jan 2014 #45

Bush and Clinton helped crash the economy Armstead Jan 2014 #53

Another winger meme - it wasn't totally bushes fault. It was, he's the ONLY president in US history uponit7771 Jan 2014 #55

Siorry if you can't accept that there is plenty of blame to go around Armstead Jan 2014 #70

Had Bush stuck with Clintons policies AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #135

Bush was partially to blame too Armstead Jan 2014 #145

lol AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #440

and you're (not your) condescending Armstead Feb 2014 #455

Had Bush continued Clintons economic policies AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #467

If the unusual economic bubble of the 1990's had continued maybe... Armstead Feb 2014 #470

Do you support the TPP? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #122

Thank you for another FAILED ad-hominem attack, vacant of substance;) grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #125

My attack was directed at the author who has a long record of anti-Dem, anti-Obama writings. nt tridim Jan 2014 #153

So how do you feel about a president who pushes anti-Dem policies? n/t cui bono Jan 2014 #171

It would suck if that were the case. tridim Jan 2014 #181

It does suck. A lot. Especially when he had all that political capital and he just squandered it. cui bono Jan 2014 #186

That you Clapper. Titonwan Jan 2014 #178

My DU name is tridim. nt tridim Jan 2014 #182

I apologize. Titonwan Jan 2014 #185

I used to be a 3D animator. tridim Jan 2014 #187

I am guessing you have nothing to offer. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #194

Yes he is a true prize. bravenak Jan 2014 #232

I don't think he's an idiot. 840high Jan 2014 #315

I agree with this article 100%. SamKnause Jan 2014 #2

Wish it weren't so, but it's Year Six and there's no New New Deal on the horizon. Octafish Jan 2014 #8

"You can play ball and good things can happen to you" zeemike Jan 2014 #24

During the 2012 Presidential Debates, Mit Romney mentioned the Obama's Pacific/China Portfolio. DhhD Jan 2014 #83

Thanks for posting this. nt adirondacker Jan 2014 #64

The system is broken, at least in terms of serving the people, LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #88

there is a way out, but it is radical (and also constitutional) grasswire Jan 2014 #314

These are desperate times, and I'm a firm believer in trying every tool in the box LuvNewcastle Feb 2014 #367

I regret that you are probably right. grasswire Feb 2014 #372

This is where I am as well. I simply don't think that Obama is up to the Nay Feb 2014 #464

Oh, Black Agenda Report... SidDithers Jan 2014 #3

You really should learn more. Octafish Jan 2014 #9

it must be the chemtrails that make us dismiss this clown. nt dionysus Jan 2014 #293

I thought it was the crop circles! zappaman Jan 2014 #296

or the flouride! or... aliens... dionysus Jan 2014 #300

You really should learn more, too. Octafish Feb 2014 #362

Do you have something against black publications? Why? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #29

I have something against the black agenda report. bravenak Jan 2014 #72

So white people should only post articles from white run sites? cui bono Jan 2014 #177

I said I hate when white people post things from there and act like it represents the majority bravenak Jan 2014 #220

Wow. There's a few things I'd say right now but you would accuse me of being racist... cui bono Jan 2014 #234

I hate the black agenda report. It's a hateful publication that to me is similar to stormfront. bravenak Jan 2014 #236

Nailed it! zappaman Jan 2014 #237

Ahhh, so this is why you were talking about BAR in the AA forum Number23 Jan 2014 #259

Nailed it. n/t zappaman Jan 2014 #260

I'm gonna talk shit whenever I see somebody post from that site. bravenak Jan 2014 #263

You should let the OP know. zappaman Jan 2014 #265

I hope the op reads the thread. bravenak Jan 2014 #277

Good luck with that. zappaman Jan 2014 #280

Well then I won't bother. bravenak Jan 2014 #282

That's ok zappaman Jan 2014 #284

Some of the same people were big time zimmerman fans. bravenak Jan 2014 #285

You'll be in good company. Msanthrope, one of the SMARTEST fucking people here, does the same Number23 Jan 2014 #270

I've noticed her posts and wondered if she was going to handle this today. bravenak Jan 2014 #276

Sidebar - re msanthrope JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #359

I may be a little passive aggressive too. bravenak Feb 2014 #400

I didn't see this thread...and I'm glad I didn't, because I was sauced msanthrope Feb 2014 #447

A little late, but I'm here. And you did just great. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #452

Thank you. bravenak Feb 2014 #491

Thank you! I realize that I am late to this thread...but I have an excuse... msanthrope Feb 2014 #450

It absolutely is and they absolutely don't Number23 Jan 2014 #261

I call the the tea party for the left. bravenak Jan 2014 #262

+1000 Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #371

This breaks my heart Number23. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #334

thank you, bravenak! Cha Feb 2014 #340

I'm surprised that people act like they don't know how black people feel about the BAR. bravenak Feb 2014 #353

That site was very popular during the Bush years, like so many other sites sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #413

Do you think this "black publication" represents more than a tiny minority of black opinion?... SidDithers Jan 2014 #104

I have no idea. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #132

If you don't know the publication, maybe you should refrain from defending them...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #133

Sorta like how "The peoples view"? AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #138

Show me where I defended them and you may have a point DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #143

Tavis Smiley is not top notch. bravenak Jan 2014 #142

+1000 JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #176

Thank you!! bravenak Jan 2014 #231

A segment scours the Cha Feb 2014 #341

They are doing a bang up job, are they not Cha! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #345

I find myself a little surprised to see that here. bravenak Feb 2014 #351

More like the Cha Feb 2014 #352

Shows what you know. Cornel West and Tavis Smiley pegged Larry Summers. Octafish Jan 2014 #312

Cornell west has spent the last few years pissing off the black community and me in particular. bravenak Jan 2014 #313

+ 1000 JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #360

That is a great analogy! bravenak Feb 2014 #420

So, rather than address what the Administration is doing, you slam Cornel West. Octafish Feb 2014 #376

No, he's calling you out for supporting a dick like Glen Ford. zappaman Feb 2014 #380

Glen Ford is not a dick. He is a human being. And he pegged the SOTU. Octafish Feb 2014 #391

When the shoe fits... zappaman Feb 2014 #392

I don't feed in to the jealous rantings of small envious people. bravenak Feb 2014 #394

Actually, it's offensive to a lot of DUers. zappaman Feb 2014 #398

You are right. bravenak Feb 2014 #399

Offending you, zappaman? Octafish Feb 2014 #402

Why do you think Obama is evil? zappaman Feb 2014 #403

''We see you.'' Octafish Feb 2014 #401

Why do you think Obama is evil? zappaman Feb 2014 #404

You words, despite the drones. He's my President and I pray for him. Octafish Feb 2014 #408

I disagree that he is evil. zappaman Feb 2014 #410

Why try to make ignorance contagious, zappaman? Learn how Wall Street Killed Financial Reform. Octafish Feb 2014 #417

Why post a hate site on DU, dude? zappaman Feb 2014 #422

Black Agenda Report is against war and banksters. Octafish Feb 2014 #425

Black Agenda Report calls Obama "evil". zappaman Feb 2014 #427

No need to censor DU, zappaman. DUers know what's hyperbole. Octafish Feb 2014 #429

No censoring dude. zappaman Feb 2014 #431

Calling something what it isn't is censorship. Octafish Feb 2014 #432

It's okay is you don't understand what censorship is. zappaman Feb 2014 #434

Good for U. bravenak Feb 2014 #405

You are making assumptions. Octafish Feb 2014 #407

Great joke, guy!!! bravenak Feb 2014 #409

+100! zappaman Feb 2014 #411

And he finds it funny. bravenak Feb 2014 #412

Some people live sad lives of their own making. zappaman Feb 2014 #414

I haven't stopped laughing since yesterday. bravenak Feb 2014 #416

The richest people in the world have been using Washington to make wars for profit... Octafish Feb 2014 #421

Please stop trying to justify posting articles from hate sites. bravenak Feb 2014 #424

I don't post hate, including from Black Agenda Report. Octafish Feb 2014 #430

The black agenda report is a Obama hate site. bravenak Feb 2014 #435

No. Even if you repeat it a million times. Octafish Feb 2014 #437

It is a hate site. bravenak Feb 2014 #439

Not familiar with it are you? It was very popular with Democrats throughout the Bush years like sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #415

Try reading this Sabrina. bravenak Feb 2014 #418

Any site that hates Obama is cool for some here at DU. zappaman Feb 2014 #423

Sigh. bravenak Feb 2014 #426

... SidDithers Feb 2014 #436

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2014 #47

+how ever high numbers go bravenak Jan 2014 #73

It isn't what they say that counts dixiegrrrrl Jan 2014 #7

I understand the limits to power...three branches of government...all that... Octafish Jan 2014 #12

Looks like an interesting article, will make for good morning reading quinnox Jan 2014 #11

It's a must-read, IMO. Octafish Jan 2014 #17

Now that I read it, indeed it was. Very hard-hitting, but then, the truth tends to be like that quinnox Jan 2014 #102

And JFK wasn't beholden to big money? BainsBane Jan 2014 #15

Actually, no. JFK tapes offer lesson in income inequality. Octafish Jan 2014 #18

You are a real fount of information Octafish. zeemike Jan 2014 #28

It's from being old. Octafish Jan 2014 #44

I was 20 in 1963 zeemike Jan 2014 #57

I bet Uncle Sam wanted you. I wasnt far behind at 18. By 1968 they rhett o rick Jan 2014 #192

No they already had me. zeemike Feb 2014 #357

+1 a significant amount.......nt Enthusiast Feb 2014 #356

far from convincing BainsBane Jan 2014 #30

You may assume what you want, Dr. Gibson is a professor of sociology at University of Pittsburgh. Octafish Jan 2014 #38

I was not aware of Donald Gibson...thanks for bringing his work to my attention! deutsey Jan 2014 #90

You are most welcome, deutsey! If you can, add Gerald D. McKnight to your reading list... Octafish Jan 2014 #128

No, I was not aware of McKnight, either deutsey Jan 2014 #140

I'm with Parenti on Rome and Dallas... Octafish Jan 2014 #163

Okay, thanks for the info. BainsBane Jan 2014 #136

"the power to do much about it because of Congress" hfojvt Jan 2014 #92

You Are Off a Little Bit erpowers Jan 2014 #97

I agree he could and should have done more BainsBane Jan 2014 #137

Excellent reply and analysis randr Jan 2014 #87

"Presided over"? Nope. It was Bush & Republican Party laws. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #19

+1, winger meme and wording all thrown into one asinine phrase "presided over" as if Bush didnt uponit7771 Jan 2014 #50

Clinton screwed up much of it. Bush finished the job. Armstead Jan 2014 #58

BULL FUCKIN SHIT!!! Clinton did NOT implement the NDPA... the economy crashing was Bush's DIRECT han uponit7771 Jan 2014 #60

Clinton pushed for financial deregulation, NAFTA and many other things that ledf to the mess Armstead Jan 2014 #68

and Democratic Centrist policies from Clinton era Armstead Jan 2014 #56

You're right. Corporate Dems might as well be Republicans. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #91

An example of Buy-Partisanship... Octafish Jan 2014 #112

When he had the chance to end the Bush tax cuts by doing nothing. He extended them. grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #126

Unqualified, half statement you present here to validate your point Sheepshank Jan 2014 #165

That's their Cha Feb 2014 #354

Not letting the Bush tax cuts fully expire have prolonged the misery. SMC22307 Feb 2014 #428

Your statement is patently false and uses the premis that Sheepshank Feb 2014 #488

"BULLCRAP" backatcha. SMC22307 Feb 2014 #489

It's true Bush and Co. ripped off the Treasury for all it was worth. Octafish Feb 2014 #458

I've lost count of the failures of the potus n/t Titonwan Jan 2014 #20

Washington -- Geithner -- sacrificed homeowners to “foam the runway” for the banks. Octafish Jan 2014 #71

HAMP, TARP...WTF hay rick Jan 2014 #86

Thank you, hay rick! Geithner bailed out Wall Street THIEVES with the US TAXPAYER's money. Octafish Feb 2014 #366

Then you need to take some math classes. bravenak Jan 2014 #74

Unless you're currently in the military... Titonwan Jan 2014 #149

He is the CIC of the US military. It it a title that applies to him whether you are military or not. bravenak Jan 2014 #150

Great Titonwan Jan 2014 #157

Have a good day. bravenak Jan 2014 #160

Why are you bringing race into this again? cui bono Jan 2014 #184

As long as you're not singling him out as the worst of the worst. bravenak Jan 2014 #207

Who's saying pecwae Jan 2014 #200

Glad you said that. bravenak Jan 2014 #211

"white guys" - huh? 840high Feb 2014 #317

Yep. That's what I said, I never stutter. bravenak Feb 2014 #318

K&R DeSwiss Jan 2014 #23

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #27

I'm black I still support him. bravenak Jan 2014 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #33

Do you think he's losing the support of the black community? bravenak Jan 2014 #46

He's not, those who say such are usually wingers in the first place and lay out anecdotal evidence uponit7771 Jan 2014 #52

I know that my people are still very supportive. bravenak Jan 2014 #63

+1, we do... we've experience the non objectivity that can make people seem crazy. Obama's getti uponit7771 Jan 2014 #65

Spot on!! bravenak Jan 2014 #67

Well this lily white guy Egnever Jan 2014 #246

Thank you. bravenak Jan 2014 #248

I am a little older Egnever Jan 2014 #250

I didn't even know anything was wrong until Clinton became president. bravenak Jan 2014 #251

Funny Egnever Jan 2014 #252

I love you being right!! bravenak Jan 2014 #253

Hey! I am with you, bravenak! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #342

Mahalo, she~ Cha Feb 2014 #344

Love it! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #346

Oh Yeah! I love all of President Obama's Cha Feb 2014 #347

Got that right Cha! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #348

Bo knows how help a President get their sprint on~ Cha Feb 2014 #349

And so many know that he has just plain folded. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #336

I'm mixed and I still support him. He's not going to be able to overturn 300 years of evil in 8 but kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #34

Some people think he must have magick. bravenak Jan 2014 #66

Not necessarily magick...Just some consistency with principles Armstead Jan 2014 #79

I didn't expect the Democratic Party to abandon him in 2010 and then whine when he couldn't bravenak Jan 2014 #84

My policy changes? Armstead Jan 2014 #134

You want different things than I want. bravenak Jan 2014 #141

I guess it all boils dowen to the fact that he's black then? Armstead Jan 2014 #144

So I'm racist for pointing out that the one black president has been treated worse by his bravenak Jan 2014 #146

So we are expected to overlook everything we donlt like simply because of his race? Armstead Jan 2014 #147

You are expected to give him just as much credit as you'd give any other president bravenak Jan 2014 #148

Whatever... Armstead Jan 2014 #164

Teenager bravenak Jan 2014 #208

It's the only appropriate response. Armstead Jan 2014 #235

I don't know why you put words in my mouth. bravenak Jan 2014 #238

I don't have to put words in your mouth Armstead Jan 2014 #239

I stand by my statements that you quoted. bravenak Jan 2014 #240

Fine. Just proves my point. Armstead Jan 2014 #241

You ignored the end of my post. bravenak Jan 2014 #242

I know you do, and I did address them. You just want to dig in your heels Armstead Jan 2014 #244

You do not have to justify yourself to me or explain yourself. bravenak Jan 2014 #247

Okay, just so you understand this Armstead Jan 2014 #295

I understand. bravenak Jan 2014 #301

Can you tell me again who's being "racist"? Not you! ... slipslidingaway Feb 2014 #332

Hee hee! bravenak Feb 2014 #419

I think you're entitlted to think I'm a racist and I'm entitled to think that it's disgusting that cali Feb 2014 #358

Did I call you a racist Cail? bravenak Feb 2014 #397

Another winger meme on the intertubes... NO he's not... still highest approval rates and some winger uponit7771 Jan 2014 #51

He'll never win a 3rd term now!!! JoePhilly Jan 2014 #77

Finally some bipartisanship with the tea party. pampango Jan 2014 #32

LOL! It's like Love: Money brings people together. Octafish Feb 2014 #369

methinks most of this to be long obvious stupidicus Jan 2014 #35

Meanwhile, the Big Players were off the Corporate McPravda radar, like Jackson Stephens... Octafish Feb 2014 #370

yep stupidicus Feb 2014 #383

What a total pile of crap n/t albino65 Jan 2014 #36

like everyone else in this thread who hates the op, you have no ability to respond cali Jan 2014 #39

I really don't hate anything albino65 Jan 2014 #48

I'll give it a go if you want. bravenak Jan 2014 #76

+1, "presided over" as if Bush's NDPA had nothing to do with the overheated housing market that uponit7771 Jan 2014 #62

What a totally useless post. Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #75

What about you and this useless post you just made? bravenak Jan 2014 #78

You need to read before you post. Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #223

I was just pointing out that you did the same exact thing you were getting on him for. bravenak Jan 2014 #227

I was just pointing out that you did not read my post with any care. Jakes Progress Feb 2014 #374

IT WAS CRAP!!! bravenak Feb 2014 #396

Judging by the corporate based advisors... AnneD Jan 2014 #40

The Team dumped Stiglitz for Summers. Octafish Feb 2014 #390

Winger meme - "who has presided over the sharpest increases in economic inequality" is to act as if uponit7771 Jan 2014 #42

Agree: The line of economic criminality goes back to 1971 and Reverse Robin Hood. Octafish Jan 2014 #93

Thanks, brudda Titonwan Jan 2014 #183

You are most welcome, Titonwan. Octafish Feb 2014 #381

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2014 #441

the democratic conundrum: "low wage recovery" brisas2k Jan 2014 #49

OFFS... SidDithers Jan 2014 #110

Typical. No facts, just a smilie. How about we Tax the Wealthy? Octafish Jan 2014 #123

I see you brought globalresearch.ca into the thread too... SidDithers Jan 2014 #130

So what? Global Research adds to what we know. You, on the other hand, don't. Octafish Jan 2014 #131

Boy oh, some you can see from a mile off. Titonwan Jan 2014 #152

I see you brought nothing to counter the facts reported here. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #155

My OP is better than this shit :) snooper2 Jan 2014 #54

Does the name ''Penny Pritzker'' ring a bell? Octafish Jan 2014 #85

Real Change won't happen if you are afraid snooper2 Jan 2014 #89

octafish, you are the truth keeper questionseverything Jan 2014 #96

LOL, double points! dionysus Jan 2014 #311

I hate the black agenda report. bravenak Jan 2014 #59

I understand your reaction to the use of the Black Agenda Report randr Jan 2014 #95

We are outraged. bravenak Jan 2014 #99

I have never accepted or accommodated anyones racism randr Jan 2014 #101

How we are addressing it is by saying it over and over as loud as we can. bravenak Jan 2014 #106

I LOVE YOU!!!! Number23 Jan 2014 #266

Always making it our problem to solve. bravenak Jan 2014 #278

+ 1 Million! JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #363

I freakin' love this. Titonwan Feb 2014 #385

Love ya too. bravenak Feb 2014 #393

Fucking nailed it... SidDithers Jan 2014 #111

In a word ProSense Jan 2014 #114

If only he had given Cornell West tickets to his first inaguration. bravenak Jan 2014 #121

Yes. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #343

Why don't you start now? brentspeak Jan 2014 #201

Are you implying that the black agenda reports is supposed to mean something to black people? bravenak Jan 2014 #204

Not yr buddy. bravenak Jan 2014 #205

++++ very well said and thanks for saying that. Whisp Jan 2014 #206

Had to take a nap. bravenak Jan 2014 #233

Comparison food for thought 90-percent Jan 2014 #69

Madoff was caught stealing from the rich-his prosecution does not count. randr Jan 2014 #82

k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Jan 2014 #80

Thousands of good jobs repairing and rebuilding Americas infrastructure are still waiting randr Jan 2014 #81

That's Old School thinking. Octafish Feb 2014 #472

Somewhere I have read that if we were to repair randr Feb 2014 #476

Yeah. But that would mean BFEE - those who profit from mineral extraction - would have to sacrifice. Octafish Feb 2014 #478

When all else fails, ProSense Jan 2014 #94

At least they haven't pulled out Cornel West, yet...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #105

And you havent pulled out anything but ridicule. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #191

But I can always count on you to read my posts... SidDithers Jan 2014 #193

I keep wondering if you will ever have a point. Still wondering. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #195

Spoke too soon. bravenak Jan 2014 #228

Embarrassing for whom? Octafish Jan 2014 #107

For everyone buying the bullshit. ProSense Jan 2014 #108

Is that a threat? Octafish Jan 2014 #113

WTF? Saying something is "embarrassing" is a "threat"? ProSense Jan 2014 #116

No, writing: ''You may want to latch onto that, but it's embarrassing.'' Octafish Jan 2014 #119

Oh brother. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #120

Me thinks this one Titonwan Feb 2014 #387

he may be an Obama hater, but you don't do anything to refute him cali Jan 2014 #117

"he may be an Obama hater" ProSense Jan 2014 #118

"A known Obama hater". Apparently name calling is all you have. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #197

No, it's not "all" I have, but he is a fucking Obama hater. ProSense Jan 2014 #198

2-4 to leave. :) Whisp Jan 2014 #209

LOL! I had no idea ProSense Jan 2014 #212

Actually, to clarify ProSense Jan 2014 #109

And for good measure: ProSense Jan 2014 #98

"That's absolute bullshit. It will have an immediate impact on a half a million workers." rhett o rick Jan 2014 #199

How does ProSense Jan 2014 #203

There are some exclusions to the executive order. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #214

Again, how does that change that the claim is bullshit? n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #215

I am happy to go thru it again. Your statement that, "It will have an immediate impact on a half a rhett o rick Jan 2014 #224

Yes, that's my claim. What does that have to do with the Ford's bullshit claim? ProSense Jan 2014 #226

President Obama has always used Bill Clinton's third way as a guide in his Admin. Vinnie From Indy Jan 2014 #100

Interesting about Neo-Lib Policies driving the RW further Right KoKo Feb 2014 #373

Being able to take conservative policies and make a few minor adjustments was Bill Clinton's Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #395

I think your insight is what it is...and a Wake Up Call once one can understand KoKo Feb 2014 #438

k/r solarhydrocan Jan 2014 #115

Where Democrats from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party may still find refuge... Octafish Feb 2014 #471

Income inequality is a symptom, the disease is a corrupt political system and campaign finance mother earth Jan 2014 #175

Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Octafish Feb 2014 #442

How many Bush Regime policies UncleMuscles Jan 2014 #180

Is This Barack Obama's 2nd Term? Is it Bill Clinton's 3rd? Or Is It Ronald Reagan's 9th? Octafish Jan 2014 #249

Fred Hampton saw the big picture too, here's a K&R in his memory (I met him in 1967, no lie!) bobthedrummer Jan 2014 #196

With the worst inequality in history, funny watching Rex Jan 2014 #202

Denial is more than just a river. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #219

Look at the pathetic attempts at avoiding talking about the problem. Rex Feb 2014 #339

+1 Phlem Jan 2014 #230

The "messenger" is an asshole and ProSense Jan 2014 #256

WHY do you even bother responding to that person? He types the same damn thing in every thread! Number23 Jan 2014 #269

Some ProSense Jan 2014 #273

Exactly. Though "agitator" is much too grand a word to describe those antics Number23 Jan 2014 #275

I am guessing that when our corporate masters put H. Clinton-Sachs in the WH that rhett o rick Jan 2014 #271

What ProSense Jan 2014 #274

If you call being against the growing wealth inequality "self-righteous nonsense" rhett o rick Jan 2014 #279

What did your vote mean? ProSense Jan 2014 #281

Just Asking Questions? Is that what you are doing? rhett o rick Jan 2014 #288

You know, it's okay that you can't own up to your vote. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #289

You are a master at deflection. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #291

You posted a link to wiki instead of reponding to a question about your vote... ProSense Jan 2014 #298

yep! Phlem Jan 2014 #306

Mocking and ridicule are the tactics. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #330

Oh my ProSense Feb 2014 #331

What kind of question is "What did your vote mean"? Phlem Jan 2014 #299

It's the ProSense Jan 2014 #303

OK then. Phlem Jan 2014 #305

A handful of people around here post mostly nothing but nonsense. Rex Feb 2014 #337

finely done melodrama... dionysus Feb 2014 #328

we need a NEW democratic party, and not one built from the ashes of the current one.... mike_c Jan 2014 #257

plus a million my friend! Phlem Jan 2014 #292

article in OP: a fountain of bullshit. dionysus Jan 2014 #302

of course. Phlem Jan 2014 #307

if you think dismissing glen ford's article as bullshit is a hideable offense, then alert. dionysus Jan 2014 #308

Sorry I don't do that. Phlem Jan 2014 #309

Here's are a couple of good ones ProSense Jan 2014 #310

Thank you for your input ProSense Phlem Feb 2014 #322

wow, he trumps Cornel West... dionysus Feb 2014 #326

I'm realizing ProSense Feb 2014 #333

so is not invading syria and iran... dionysus Feb 2014 #350

You offer no facts in rebuttal, dionysus. Octafish Feb 2014 #365

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #327

Joe Wilson, is that you? struggle4progress Feb 2014 #335

No -- and certainly not the one you're thinking of. Octafish Feb 2014 #364

Your post is a good example as to exactly how deep your discussions get. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #378

It's always a good idea to consider the source struggle4progress Feb 2014 #384

K&R for pissing of all the right people! Rex Feb 2014 #338

+ 10 Jakes Progress Feb 2014 #375

Kicked and recommended. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #355

The Real 'Common Sense' as Penned by Thomas Paine Octafish Feb 2014 #445

Thanks. Excellent. William K. Black is one of my favorites. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #446

Here's the problem with BAR and the rest of the ODS industry: ucrdem Feb 2014 #368

The steady stream of garbage Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #382

As long as a site hates Obama... zappaman Feb 2014 #389

Huge K&R. woo me with science Feb 2014 #377

Glen Ford: Wall Street and the wealthiest Americans have bought Washington... Octafish Feb 2014 #444

Sadly, true. AzDar Feb 2014 #433

Check out Little Sister, the antidote to Big Brother. Octafish Feb 2014 #443

"Danced like Mr. Bojangles" is how your source described the President. And you post that racist msanthrope Feb 2014 #448

Disingenuous. Ford did not write that in the article I posted. It came from your article. Octafish Feb 2014 #451

So let me see if I have your defense to posting this racist correctly.... msanthrope Feb 2014 #453

So. You're demanding I explain to you why you dragged in the article you dragged in. Octafish Feb 2014 #456

The OP is complete fact-free BS, but that and the ProSense Feb 2014 #457

''Wall Street–the 1 percent–believes the world is theirs for the taking, and they want all of it.'' Octafish Feb 2014 #460

WTF does that have to do with the point that the OP is BS? ProSense Feb 2014 #462

Here's what you don't understand zappaman Feb 2014 #463

Those words are from the OP. Octafish Feb 2014 #492

No..I'm demanding you explain why Glen Ford..a man that has used racist language to msanthrope Feb 2014 #459

Not to mention this zappaman Feb 2014 #461

I think it's vile to pick a racist source..but to pick a source because you think that having msanthrope Feb 2014 #469

Nailed it. n/t zappaman Feb 2014 #473

I see alot of posts attacking the messenger JEB Feb 2014 #465

There are also ProSense Feb 2014 #466

I've read elsewhere that it is unclear how many workers will be affected by the JEB Feb 2014 #474

On spying, is this author also an asshole? JEB Feb 2014 #475

The OP is BS. Period. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #477

No valid points whatsoever?.....OK, I see. JEB Feb 2014 #479

You ProSense Feb 2014 #480

Yes, I did post to another article by another author. You JEB Feb 2014 #481

There it is ProSense Feb 2014 #482

You honestly can't see how the two articles are related? JEB Feb 2014 #483

Is this ProSense Feb 2014 #484

So how many workers will be affected by the executive order? Honest question JEB Feb 2014 #485

You are mistaken if you think the message of a racist is worth discussing. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #468

Here's the bottom line: Welfare for the Wealthy and Austerity for the Many... Octafish Feb 2014 #490

kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #493

A Ship of State rig for collision kick. n/t bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #494

kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #495