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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
6. Excellent reply. Thanks. I don't
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 06:59 PM
Mar 2012

know how much I edited the OP after you read it. I made some edits to beef up the point that Bale's actions were fundementally a break-down of discipline, which is in line with your comments about the role of discipline (and deterrence) in the context of war. He was trained to kill and he killed. But he was also trained to maintain discipline and he did not. He went outside his orders.

There are probably of lot of men who, after enough grueling time in the field, might like to go Bale on somebody but they do not because they are not allowed to.

I wrote something a while back about how I think the death penalty has a place in the Uniform Code but not in civil law because acts in war are a different class. I have no desire to see Bale executed out of blood-thirtiness, but because a generation of soldiers have been told, "If you do this you will be executed."

The disagreement was widespread but my argument was that if the military thinks it necessary to their maintainance of order I would tend to defer because the whole moral context of war is so different from civil society so the usual modes of moral anaysis become... well, less sensible.

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Well Put, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2012 #1
I had a friend that joined the marines Tabasco_Dave Mar 2012 #2
yup, I hate it when people assume all these guys are noble warriors or quinnox Mar 2012 #3
That may be a bit harsh cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #4
I think you missed the entire point of the OP USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #8
Very fair and well written OP USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #5
Excellent reply. Thanks. I don't cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #6
My main problem with the death penalty... USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #7
Very True cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #9
That's why Francis Sawyer joined up thelordofhell Mar 2012 #10
Not only did he join after 9/11 but he would have had to re-up Arctic Dave Mar 2012 #11
Yes (He spent a lot of time in Iraq) cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #12
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