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35. Where there's heat, there's fire

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:28 PM

Feb 2014

Thanks for keeping this topic alive Octafish, in spite of all the nay-sayers and know-it-alls it attracts. I notice they never address this:
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At least 300 tons of radioactive water continue to pour into the ocean at Fukushima every day, according to official estimates made prior to such data having been made a state secret.

39. To the extent they can be known, the quantities and make-up of radiation pouring out of Fukushima are also now a state secret, with independent measurement or public speculation punishable by up to ten years in prison.

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50 Reasons We Should Fear the Worst from Fukushima [View all] Octafish Feb 2014 OP

If a dirty bomber terrorist did to America what Fukushima is doing to the planet... Octafish Feb 2014 #1

sigh, i had forgotten comey was w's front man in the padilla case questionseverything Feb 2014 #54

That's some scary stuff, Octafish RobertEarl Feb 2014 #2

At sunrise or sunset? MineralMan Feb 2014 #5

Sunsets are beautiful. RobertEarl Feb 2014 #8

Near the horizon? Sure I've seen it. Same reason. MineralMan Feb 2014 #11

Pale blue? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #17

No. Many have not seen Cherenkov radiation in the atmosphere. MineralMan Feb 2014 #64

'what do you think of the 50 ways in the op?' MineralMan Feb 2014 #12

400 similar nuclear waste sites RobertEarl Feb 2014 #26

Anomaly hunting again? longship Feb 2014 #45

There was a time when Los Angeles has the reputation of gorgeous sunsets Cleita Feb 2014 #13

There are no mushroom clouds in the skies these days. MineralMan Feb 2014 #15

You missed the point of my post but carry on. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #19

No, actually, I didn't. MineralMan Feb 2014 #21

Thanks for caring, Cleita. Octafish Feb 2014 #90

'Chernobyl Was Transparent Compared to Fukushima': Harvey Wasserman on Ongoing Crisis Octafish Feb 2014 #7

Wasserman is a sage and a patriot RobertEarl Feb 2014 #10

FFS, this again? nt Logical Feb 2014 #3

Hide thread by keyword is your friend. Also, remember all that silly fuss over the ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #4

Thats all you got? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #6

Didn't know TEPCO had solved the ongoing catastrophe. Octafish Feb 2014 #9

this again? //\\ G_j Feb 2014 #16

Apparently, the World Health Organization is now part of the cover-up... SidDithers Feb 2014 #20

The IAEA seems to be, per The Tokyo Shimbun. Octafish Feb 2014 #112

We all know that the World Health Organization is just a tool of the BFEE...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #113

Interesting that you have to ridicule the BFEE, SidDithers. Octafish Feb 2014 #116

Really. Chan790 Feb 2014 #107

Yes but it is a slow death, and you can't prove anything. zeemike Feb 2014 #14

I'm getting on in years... Octafish Feb 2014 #91

I think we and the world at large need changes in leadership that Cleita Feb 2014 #18

We have the means to make those changes, Cleita. MineralMan Feb 2014 #22

No we need strong and dare I say heroic leadership and we don't have it and we Cleita Feb 2014 #23

OK. Well, then, don't bother to participate. MineralMan Feb 2014 #24

There was a hero RobertEarl Feb 2014 #28

He needs to come out from the shadows. Cleita Feb 2014 #31

He has come out RobertEarl Feb 2014 #37

Heroism is not easy. Cleita Feb 2014 #38

Also, I live downwind from a nuke plant sitting on three Cleita Feb 2014 #39

Sen. Boxer is doing it RobertEarl Feb 2014 #40

Barbara is my hero and she accomplishes so much. Cleita Feb 2014 #41

The reasons we have nuclear power generation MineralMan Feb 2014 #32

Eh? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #42

Yes, well, so do I. And my opposition and yours have had identical MineralMan Feb 2014 #46

You are so wishy washy RobertEarl Feb 2014 #47

No, I am not. MineralMan Feb 2014 #48

Yes you are RobertEarl Feb 2014 #51

'Just stop.' MineralMan Feb 2014 #53

another reason nuclear power plants are no longer viable...insurance madrchsod Feb 2014 #102

Sorry... that's almost entirely wrong. FBaggins Feb 2014 #104

That's true, too. MineralMan Feb 2014 #106

If any at all? FBaggins Feb 2014 #109

Looking forward. MineralMan Feb 2014 #110

Plenty in the planning stages... but not as many as you'll see there. FBaggins Feb 2014 #111

Oh, I participate all right. Cleita Feb 2014 #29

OK. You work on that. MineralMan Feb 2014 #33

In 1986, in France mylye2222 Feb 2014 #25

someone found some new words on the Intertubes LOL snooper2 Feb 2014 #27

That's what idiots do. Octafish Feb 2014 #92

This article needs citations Shivering Jemmy Feb 2014 #30

Sorry. The original has links to supporting documentation. Octafish Feb 2014 #34

Where there's heat, there's fire marions ghost Feb 2014 #35

As long as you exclude bananas, you'll be okay. closeupready Feb 2014 #36

So much fail in this screed. dbackjon Feb 2014 #43

The Implications of The Massive Contamination of Japan With Radioactive Cesium Octafish Feb 2014 #85

Here are the geiger counter readings in the Fukushima area and further north. VERY low stevenleser Feb 2014 #87

I do understand radiation dbackjon Feb 2014 #88

Thanks. Octafish Feb 2014 #93

A magnificent example of the Gish Gallop FBaggins Feb 2014 #44

Hahaha RobertEarl Feb 2014 #50

You continue to point to threads that make you look foolish FBaggins Feb 2014 #52

It's ok "Cores are not hot", Baggins RobertEarl Feb 2014 #56

Wouldn't a sock puppet say that? FBaggins Feb 2014 #61

That's all you got? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #63

Nope. I've got much more than that. FBaggins Feb 2014 #67

Every point Wasserman makes is sourced. Octafish Feb 2014 #55

GIGO FBaggins Feb 2014 #59

So, you're too busy to do more than smear the article. Octafish Feb 2014 #62

That's the point of a Gish Gallop. Throw so much nonsense out there people dont have the time to stevenleser Feb 2014 #69

Thank you for explaining. Octafish Feb 2014 #76

Lol! FBaggins Feb 2014 #70

So, it's my fault for sharing an interesting article. Octafish Feb 2014 #75

Well... only to the extent that posting a similar 9/11 conspiracy gallop would be your fault. FBaggins Feb 2014 #84

No need to smear, just show where I'm wrong and I'll apologize. Octafish Feb 2014 #86

Show where you're wrong? FBaggins Feb 2014 #89

Yeah, a lot of those sources are from woo and conspiracy theory websites. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #118

Really? Name one. Octafish Feb 2014 #119

Ecowatch, for one. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #121

You don't know Harvey Wasserman. Octafish Feb 2014 #128

Which has absolutely ZERO bearing on the credibility of his claims here. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #129

Wasserman is using info from naturalnews?... SidDithers Feb 2014 #131

Yes he is. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #132

"So much for credibility." For Wasserman and for the OP...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #133

Indeed. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #134

And the one conclusive reason why you shouldn't... stevenleser Feb 2014 #49

But what about the starfish??? Common Sense Party Feb 2014 #57

What about the starfish? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #58

What do you KNOW about the starfish? Common Sense Party Feb 2014 #60

Starfish eat mussels. RobertEarl Feb 2014 #65

And as has been pointed out to you multiple times... FBaggins Feb 2014 #68

Plutonium from where? Naturally occurring or man-made? Common Sense Party Feb 2014 #71

Man-made FBaggins Feb 2014 #72

Plutonium from nuclear reactions RobertEarl Feb 2014 #99

But not from Fukushima FBaggins Feb 2014 #105

What do we know? FBaggins Feb 2014 #66

What we know - take two FBaggins Feb 2014 #108

Thanks. But Geiger counters don't tell the whole story. Octafish Feb 2014 #115

WOW catbyte Feb 2014 #73

Wasserman put together a very important compilation... Octafish Feb 2014 #79

Goddamnit, not this crap again. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #74

No need to get angry. It's a different article. Octafish Feb 2014 #77

Terrific. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #78

Since you were 12? Octafish Feb 2014 #80

13 years ago. And no, my only DU username has been NuclearDem. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #81

You're no expert on nuclear meltdowns? Not quite what I got out of it. Octafish Feb 2014 #96

What a bunch of crap. I in no way defended nuclear energy. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #98

They're your words. Octafish Feb 2014 #114

And yet I've said here and elsewhere that I'm opposed to nuclear energy. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #117

Correct. However, you were saying something else there and then... Octafish Feb 2014 #120

You know why I keep myself away from threads like this one? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #122

No I wasn't. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #125

A Free Press One_Life_To_Give Feb 2014 #82

Hit democracy right in the lede. Octafish Feb 2014 #97

Like flies to honey. Good job. K&R n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #83

Check out the New York Academy of Medicine conference... Octafish Feb 2014 #124

There was no NYAM conference. FBaggins Feb 2014 #126

So what? It's their stationery. Octafish Feb 2014 #130

Their stationary? FBaggins Feb 2014 #135

That's not what flies do, as you well know. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #127

excellent post frwrfpos Feb 2014 #94

Thank you. The One Big Thing... ''US RADIATION PANEL RECOGNIZES: NO SAFE RADIATION DOSE'' Octafish Feb 2014 #123

About once a week we get one of these. But nothing on the MSM. The MSM loved Chernobyl and TMI...... Logical Feb 2014 #95

Here's some news RobertEarl Feb 2014 #100

Do you remember the coverage of TMI? nt Logical Feb 2014 #101

Barely RobertEarl Feb 2014 #103