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FBaggins

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104. Sorry... that's almost entirely wrong.

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 10:01 AM

Feb 2014

New construction is covered by insurance. Yes, that's "passed on to the consumer", but that's true for any type of power generation. 10-15 billions would build mutliple reactors... the cost for a "plant" depends on the number of reactors and the type. It doesn't take anywhere near 15 years to build the average reactor...

I don't know where you got the idea that only one plant in the world makes containment vessels. They tend to be construted on-site. You may be thinking of reactor pressure vessels... but even that would not be true. They're produced in quite a number of places and several forges can handle them (one company in Japan, two in China, one in Russia, and new forging capacity with those requirements is under construction in Japan, China, S.Korea, France, Russia, and the Czech Republic (and more planned in the UK and India).

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50 Reasons We Should Fear the Worst from Fukushima [View all] Octafish Feb 2014 OP

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'what do you think of the 50 ways in the op?' MineralMan Feb 2014 #12

400 similar nuclear waste sites RobertEarl Feb 2014 #26

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No, actually, I didn't. MineralMan Feb 2014 #21

Thanks for caring, Cleita. Octafish Feb 2014 #90

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Wasserman is a sage and a patriot RobertEarl Feb 2014 #10

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Thats all you got? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #6

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this again? //\\ G_j Feb 2014 #16

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Interesting that you have to ridicule the BFEE, SidDithers. Octafish Feb 2014 #116

Really. Chan790 Feb 2014 #107

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We have the means to make those changes, Cleita. MineralMan Feb 2014 #22

No we need strong and dare I say heroic leadership and we don't have it and we Cleita Feb 2014 #23

OK. Well, then, don't bother to participate. MineralMan Feb 2014 #24

There was a hero RobertEarl Feb 2014 #28

He needs to come out from the shadows. Cleita Feb 2014 #31

He has come out RobertEarl Feb 2014 #37

Heroism is not easy. Cleita Feb 2014 #38

Also, I live downwind from a nuke plant sitting on three Cleita Feb 2014 #39

Sen. Boxer is doing it RobertEarl Feb 2014 #40

Barbara is my hero and she accomplishes so much. Cleita Feb 2014 #41

The reasons we have nuclear power generation MineralMan Feb 2014 #32

Eh? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #42

Yes, well, so do I. And my opposition and yours have had identical MineralMan Feb 2014 #46

You are so wishy washy RobertEarl Feb 2014 #47

No, I am not. MineralMan Feb 2014 #48

Yes you are RobertEarl Feb 2014 #51

'Just stop.' MineralMan Feb 2014 #53

another reason nuclear power plants are no longer viable...insurance madrchsod Feb 2014 #102

Sorry... that's almost entirely wrong. FBaggins Feb 2014 #104

That's true, too. MineralMan Feb 2014 #106

If any at all? FBaggins Feb 2014 #109

Looking forward. MineralMan Feb 2014 #110

Plenty in the planning stages... but not as many as you'll see there. FBaggins Feb 2014 #111

Oh, I participate all right. Cleita Feb 2014 #29

OK. You work on that. MineralMan Feb 2014 #33

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That's what idiots do. Octafish Feb 2014 #92

This article needs citations Shivering Jemmy Feb 2014 #30

Sorry. The original has links to supporting documentation. Octafish Feb 2014 #34

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So much fail in this screed. dbackjon Feb 2014 #43

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Here are the geiger counter readings in the Fukushima area and further north. VERY low stevenleser Feb 2014 #87

I do understand radiation dbackjon Feb 2014 #88

Thanks. Octafish Feb 2014 #93

A magnificent example of the Gish Gallop FBaggins Feb 2014 #44

Hahaha RobertEarl Feb 2014 #50

You continue to point to threads that make you look foolish FBaggins Feb 2014 #52

It's ok "Cores are not hot", Baggins RobertEarl Feb 2014 #56

Wouldn't a sock puppet say that? FBaggins Feb 2014 #61

That's all you got? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #63

Nope. I've got much more than that. FBaggins Feb 2014 #67

Every point Wasserman makes is sourced. Octafish Feb 2014 #55

GIGO FBaggins Feb 2014 #59

So, you're too busy to do more than smear the article. Octafish Feb 2014 #62

That's the point of a Gish Gallop. Throw so much nonsense out there people dont have the time to stevenleser Feb 2014 #69

Thank you for explaining. Octafish Feb 2014 #76

Lol! FBaggins Feb 2014 #70

So, it's my fault for sharing an interesting article. Octafish Feb 2014 #75

Well... only to the extent that posting a similar 9/11 conspiracy gallop would be your fault. FBaggins Feb 2014 #84

No need to smear, just show where I'm wrong and I'll apologize. Octafish Feb 2014 #86

Show where you're wrong? FBaggins Feb 2014 #89

Yeah, a lot of those sources are from woo and conspiracy theory websites. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #118

Really? Name one. Octafish Feb 2014 #119

Ecowatch, for one. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #121

You don't know Harvey Wasserman. Octafish Feb 2014 #128

Which has absolutely ZERO bearing on the credibility of his claims here. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #129

Wasserman is using info from naturalnews?... SidDithers Feb 2014 #131

Yes he is. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #132

"So much for credibility." For Wasserman and for the OP...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #133

Indeed. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #134

And the one conclusive reason why you shouldn't... stevenleser Feb 2014 #49

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What about the starfish? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #58

What do you KNOW about the starfish? Common Sense Party Feb 2014 #60

Starfish eat mussels. RobertEarl Feb 2014 #65

And as has been pointed out to you multiple times... FBaggins Feb 2014 #68

Plutonium from where? Naturally occurring or man-made? Common Sense Party Feb 2014 #71

Man-made FBaggins Feb 2014 #72

Plutonium from nuclear reactions RobertEarl Feb 2014 #99

But not from Fukushima FBaggins Feb 2014 #105

What do we know? FBaggins Feb 2014 #66

What we know - take two FBaggins Feb 2014 #108

Thanks. But Geiger counters don't tell the whole story. Octafish Feb 2014 #115

WOW catbyte Feb 2014 #73

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Goddamnit, not this crap again. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #74

No need to get angry. It's a different article. Octafish Feb 2014 #77

Terrific. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #78

Since you were 12? Octafish Feb 2014 #80

13 years ago. And no, my only DU username has been NuclearDem. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #81

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What a bunch of crap. I in no way defended nuclear energy. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #98

They're your words. Octafish Feb 2014 #114

And yet I've said here and elsewhere that I'm opposed to nuclear energy. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #117

Correct. However, you were saying something else there and then... Octafish Feb 2014 #120

You know why I keep myself away from threads like this one? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #122

No I wasn't. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #125

A Free Press One_Life_To_Give Feb 2014 #82

Hit democracy right in the lede. Octafish Feb 2014 #97

Like flies to honey. Good job. K&R n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #83

Check out the New York Academy of Medicine conference... Octafish Feb 2014 #124

There was no NYAM conference. FBaggins Feb 2014 #126

So what? It's their stationery. Octafish Feb 2014 #130

Their stationary? FBaggins Feb 2014 #135

That's not what flies do, as you well know. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #127

excellent post frwrfpos Feb 2014 #94

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About once a week we get one of these. But nothing on the MSM. The MSM loved Chernobyl and TMI...... Logical Feb 2014 #95

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Do you remember the coverage of TMI? nt Logical Feb 2014 #101

Barely RobertEarl Feb 2014 #103