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Octafish

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Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:20 PM Feb 2014

Anatomy of the Deep State -- The Shadow Government that calls the shots [View all]

Per Bill Moyers via Alternet...



D.C. Insider Mike Lofgren -- a congressional staff member for 28 years specializing in national security possessing top secret security clearance -- reports: There's a Shadow Govt. Running the Country, and It's Not Up for Re-Election. Power centers in DC and the corporate corridors of Manhattan and Silicon Valley are calling the shots. I'd recommend DUers, while the lights are still on, go to either source and download their own copy.



Anatomy of the Deep State

Rome lived upon its principal till ruin stared it in the face. Industry is the only true source of wealth, and there was no industry in Rome. By day the Ostia road was crowded with carts and muleteers, carrying to the great city the silks and spices of the East, the marble of Asia Minor, the timber of the Atlas, the grain of Africa and Egypt; and the carts brought out nothing but loads of dung. That was their return cargo. —"The Martyrdom of Man" by Winwood Reade (1871)

By Mike Lofgren
BillMoyers.com / Feb. 21, 2014

There is the visible government situated around the Mall in Washington, and then there is another, more shadowy, more indefinable government that is not explained in Civics 101 or observable to tourists at the White House or the Capitol. The former is traditional Washington partisan politics: the tip of the iceberg that a public watching C-SPAN sees daily and which is theoretically controllable via elections. The subsurface part of the iceberg I shall call the Deep State, which operates on its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power. [1]

During the last five years, the news media have been flooded with pundits decrying the broken politics of Washington. The conventional wisdom has it that partisan gridlock and dysfunction have become the new normal. That is certainly the case, and I have been among the harshest critics of this development. But it is also imperative to acknowledge the limits of this critique as it applies to the American governmental system. On one level, the critique is self-evident: in the domain that the public can see, Congress is hopelessly deadlocked in the worst manner since the 1850s, the violently rancorous decade preceding the Civil War.

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The Deep State is the big story of our time; it is the red thread that runs through the war on terrorism, the financialization and deindustrialization of the American economy, the rise of a plutocratic social structure and political dysfunction. Washington is the headquarters of the Deep State, and its time in the sun as a rival to Rome, Constantinople, or London may be term-limited by its overweening sense of self-importance and its habit, as Winwood Reade said of Rome, to “lived upon its principal till ruin stared it in the face.” Living upon its principal in this case means that the Deep State has been extracting value from the American people in vampire-like fashion.

We are faced with two disagreeable implications. First, that the Deep State is so heavily entrenched, so well protected by surveillance, firepower, money and its ability to co-opt resistance that it is almost impervious to change. Second, that just as in so many previous empires, the Deep State is populated with those whose instinctive reaction to the failure of their policies is to double down on those very policies in the future. Iraq was a failure briefly camouflaged by the wholly propagandistic success of the so-called surge; this legerdemain allowed for the surge in Afghanistan, which equally came to naught. Undeterred by that failure, the functionaries of the Deep State plunged into Libya; the smoking rubble of the Benghazi consulate, rather than discouraging further misadventure, seemed merely to incite the itch to bomb Syria. Will the Deep State ride on the back of the American people from failure to failure until the country itself, despite its huge reserves of human and material capital, is slowly exhausted? The dusty road of empire is strewn with the bones of former great powers that exhausted themselves in like manner.
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The final factor is Silicon Valley. Owing to secrecy and obfuscation, it is hard to know how much of the NSA’s relationship with the Valley is based on voluntary cooperation, how much is legal compulsion through FISA warrants and how much is a matter of the NSA surreptitiously breaking into technology companies’ systems. Given the Valley’s public relations requirement to mollify its customers who have privacy concerns, it is difficult to take the tech firms’ libertarian protestations about government compromise of their systems at face value, especially since they engage in similar activity against their own customers for commercial purposes. That said, evidence is accumulating that Silicon Valley is losing billions in overseas business from companies, individuals and governments that want to maintain privacy. For high-tech entrepreneurs, the cash nexus is ultimately more compelling than the Deep State’s demand for patriotic cooperation. Even legal compulsion can be combatted: unlike the individual citizen, tech firms have deep pockets and batteries of lawyers with which to fight government diktat.

CONTINUED w/LINKS to sources...

http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/



Thank goodness or chance for Mike Lofgren, Bill Moyers, and DU. We may yet reverse the trend of We the People paying for wars without end for privatized power and profits and its associated rich getting richer while the rest of us become Have-Nots.
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Recommend jsr Feb 2014 #1
'Shadow CIA' buys state secrets for cash via Swiss bank accounts, claims WikiLeaks as it releases 's Octafish Feb 2014 #7
When you try to post this to FB it won't post. Hmmmm.... nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #24
K&R johnnyreb Feb 2014 #2
May explain why when we pull the lever marked 'Democrat' out pops something closer to something else Octafish Feb 2014 #8
So what a lot of US have stated/experienced for decades is, again, being verified. Better late than bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #3
bobthedrummer, you've been on to their treasonous gangster capers since Day One. Octafish Feb 2014 #15
The Cosmosphere space museum, in Hutchinson, KS, of all places, has been very honest about.......... LongTomH Feb 2014 #19
I shoot for the stars deaniac21 Feb 2014 #29
Incredible and fascinating! Octafish Feb 2014 #54
The Cosmosphere is pretty awesome. AZCat Feb 2014 #86
We used to have the 'Michigan Space & Science Center'in Jackson... Octafish Feb 2014 #93
Perhaps 20,000 prisoners died making NAZI rockets. Octafish Feb 2014 #57
Yes, and Walter Dornberger (former SS officer in charge of production at Peenemunde, ordered slaves bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #60
Been saying this and trying to get others to see it for years. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #22
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Feb 2014 #4
An example of using government office to punish critics and profit the connected... Octafish Feb 2014 #25
As I have stated, I have no delusions that we can defeat the giant, but I'd rather go down rhett o rick Feb 2014 #5
''But nobody reads.'' -- Allen Dulles, Warren Commissioner, former head of CIA, fired by JFK Octafish Feb 2014 #26
Terr'ists don't like to have an educated people around. johnnyreb Feb 2014 #30
I will accept credit for reading a lot. But I will admit there are some books that I cant read rhett o rick Feb 2014 #33
At least pick up the book and read the last chapter - she does give a blueprint on how to change the Hestia Feb 2014 #63
I own the book and will do as you suggest. I am currently reading "The God Delusion" rhett o rick Feb 2014 #67
Ain't that the truth Rick [sigh] Hestia Feb 2014 #103
Hey rhett o rick BelgianMadCow Feb 2014 #71
Please turn your message into an OP. Octafish Feb 2014 #81
Thank you. I did BelgianMadCow Feb 2014 #90
Agree with Octafish. woo me with science Feb 2014 #84
I did - it's here BelgianMadCow Feb 2014 #91
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #6
But it probably won't. One fourth of the deep state posts here I bet. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #23
And why is that? Enthusiast Feb 2014 #40
''That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people... Octafish Feb 2014 #51
You are Mistaking Lack of Media Access for apathy AndyTiedye Feb 2014 #87
Bookmarking to read later when I have more time. K&R just for the synopsis alone riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #9
Know your BFEE: Siegelman Judge is a big-time War Profiteer Octafish Feb 2014 #52
Thanks, as always, for your posts! deutsey Feb 2014 #10
'Smells Like Coup Spirit' Octafish Feb 2014 #53
Kicked and recommended. go west young man Feb 2014 #11
America’s Deep State -- Moving America Backward Octafish Feb 2014 #94
KnR. nt tblue37 Feb 2014 #12
WikiLeaks Goes Inside Corporate America's Wannabe CIA Octafish Feb 2014 #97
A borgs confession .... WOW ... like we didn't know this is going on now ... MindMover Feb 2014 #13
We Asked the Five Eyes About What They Were Up To. Here's What They Said. Octafish Feb 2014 #98
K&R woo me with science Feb 2014 #14
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #16
One consistency in our Government for the past 100 years has been the ……. Bonhomme Richard Feb 2014 #17
It brings to mind this quote from U.S. Grant Bonhomme Richard Feb 2014 #18
I believe that most of the poor bastards that died for the South didnt have a choice. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #34
I have thought the same many times. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #41
I am reading his personal memoirs and... Bonhomme Richard Feb 2014 #44
I wonder how old the term, "poor white trash," is? nilesobek Feb 2014 #56
During Divine Destiny's Westward Push, they used blankets infected with smallpox. Octafish Feb 2014 #58
Most Americans are completely unaware Enthusiast Feb 2014 #59
The descendants of the original greedheads rule the roost. Octafish Feb 2014 #82
Oh. I remember that one. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #83
More on The Deep State from Henry Giroux at Bill Moyers.com LongTomH Feb 2014 #20
+1 jsr Feb 2014 #32
+1 woo me with science Feb 2014 #66
kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #88
kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #89
Thank you! raindaddy Feb 2014 #21
What a bunch of bollocks. "Shadow government" is a nonsense term to give an excuse to the FSogol Feb 2014 #27
You should read more and learn. Octafish Feb 2014 #28
You can spot a conservative right off by their absolute closed-minded certainty. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #68
LOL!!! nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #42
I would posit that YOUR post is creative speculation n/t Holly_Hobby Feb 2014 #46
your attitude is part of the problem. nt tomp Feb 2014 #47
Not BS in my book.. BlueJac Feb 2014 #49
Did I just read on DU that Bill Moyers is trying to trick people into not voting? DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2014 #55
Oooo, you totally got away with a call out and you did it before the shadow government FSogol Feb 2014 #64
And you've served on hundreds of juries here from your Virginia home-lol! n/t bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #75
You haven't addressed anything in the article, leading ME, and I could be wrong, to the conclusion sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #80
k&R n/t JohnyCanuck Feb 2014 #31
best article I've read in a LONG time steve2470 Feb 2014 #35
K&R ReRe Feb 2014 #36
Some would rather relegate it to obscurity jsr Feb 2014 #38
Yeah... ReRe Feb 2014 #43
K&R! pacalo Feb 2014 #37
K&R and bookmarking arikara Feb 2014 #39
Recommend n/t Holly_Hobby Feb 2014 #45
Good stuff.. BlueJac Feb 2014 #48
Re: Silicon Valley. I have long suspected that the NSA/CIA/US gov't shaped Google from the ground Romulox Feb 2014 #50
I remember reading about google's ties to us intelligence back when they were starting up. El_Johns Feb 2014 #61
It's a natural partnership jsr Feb 2014 #73
INSLAW/Promis Octafish Feb 2014 #78
Kick for visibility of what is in the shadows n/t bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #62
Thanks for posting this important information, Octafish Samantha Feb 2014 #65
Interesting ProSense Feb 2014 #69
kick. n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #70
Fantastic piece by the great Bill Moyers Oilwellian Feb 2014 #72
There's also a thread on DKos covering Lofgren's article Oilwellian Feb 2014 #74
So many warned us-taught us fredamae Feb 2014 #76
Only various details ever surprise me get the red out Feb 2014 #77
I just stumbled upon this today... Oscarmonster13 Feb 2014 #79
kick. n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #85
Kicking...n/t Hotler Feb 2014 #92
kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #95
Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2014 #96
Does NSA target JFK websites? (They won’t answer the question) Octafish Feb 2014 #109
K&R raouldukelives Feb 2014 #99
Can we get Bill Moyers to go onstage and twerk with Miley Cyrus? Quantess Feb 2014 #106
Peter Dale Scott defines the term "Deep State" MinM Feb 2014 #100
same as when the NSC funded gunrunning by drugrunning MisterP Feb 2014 #102
Peter Dale Scott contin... MinM Mar 2014 #113
Another kick and recommend. go west young man Feb 2014 #101
FBI Redacts Letter About Drone Usage That Was Already Published In Full Octafish Feb 2014 #107
The vampire squid never dies and we will never stop talking about the monster. Rex Feb 2014 #104
Know your BFEE: Behind the Curtain -- Booz Allen Hamilton and its Owner, The Carlyle Group Octafish Feb 2014 #105
Thanks, I did not know Booz Allen was owned by Carlyle! Rex Feb 2014 #108
There isn't enough money in the world for some people. Octafish Feb 2014 #110
Check out the growth in Carlyle stock go west young man Mar 2014 #111
kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #112
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