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Octafish

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54. Incredible and fascinating!
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:33 PM
Feb 2014

Thank you, LongTomH, for sharing your friend's story. His discovery and preservation of the buzz bomb and the V-2 would make an excellent feature film. That image suggests the Cosmosphere hosts a most compelling exhibition that should attract people from around the world.



Project PAPERCLIP and the Space Race

Jim Marrs

ON MAY 19, 1945, JUST TWELVE DAYS AFTER GERMANY’S unconditional surrender, Herbert Wagner, creator of the first Nazi guided missile used in combat, landed in Washington, D.C., in a U.S. military aircraft with blacked- out windows.

Wagner was the first of a stream of Nazi scientists, technicians, and others to arrive in the United States in a program that came to be known as Project Paperclip. It began as Operation Overcast, a program authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to exploit the knowledge of Nazi scientists. (Overcast was mentioned but not clearly explained in the 2006 film The Good German starring George Clooney.)

This operation was renamed Paperclip and formally authorized in August 1945 by President Harry Truman, who was assured that no one with “Nazi or militaristic records” would be involved.

By mid-November, more Nazi scientists, engineers, and technicians were arriving in America, including Wernher von Braun and more than seven hundred other Nazi rocket scientists.

By 1955, nearly a thousand German scientists had been granted citizenship in the United States and given prominent positions in the American scientific community. Many had been longtime members of the Nazi Party and the Gestapo, had conducted experiments on humans at concentration camps, used slave labor, and committed other war crimes.

Von Braun, who in later years became the head of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), is one of the more recognizable names of the Paperclip scientists.

Others included:
* Major General Walter Dornberger, a close associate of von Braun’s
* Werner Heisenberg, physicist and Nobel laureate who founded quantum mechanics
* gaseous uranium centrifuge expert Dr. Paul Harteck
* Nazi atomic bomb physicist and military project leader Kurt Diebner
* uranium enrichment expert Erich Bagge
* 1944 Nobel Prize winner Otto Hahn, called the “father of nuclear chemistry”
* scientists Carl Friedrich von Weizsaecker, Karl Wirtz, and Horst Korsching
* physicist Walter Gerlach


CNN reporter Linda Hunt’s 1991 book Secret Agenda: The United States Government, Nazi Scientists, and Project Paperclip, 1945–1990 first revealed the extent to which Nazi infiltration was aided by persons within the U.S. federal government and military.

Like other researchers, Hunt found many government files pertaining to recruited Nazis “missing” or otherwise unavailable. Despite government claims that Paperclip was ended in 1947, according to Hunt, this project was,

“the biggest, longest-running operation involving Nazis in our country’s history.”

“The project continued nonstop until 1973 - decades longer than was previously thought. And remnants of it are still in operation today,” she wrote.


By the 1990s, when details of Paperclip finally reached the public’s ears, the infusion of Nazis into America’s military-industrial complex was complete.

CONTINUED...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_paperclip03.htm



More on the story: NASA's NAZIs.

On a lighter note: I had the good fortune to visit Kansas a few years back -- a nephew attended KSU, so we loaded up the old Jaguar and headed down the road from Detroit. Great school. Great state. Great people. Oh, and they have a real love of aviation and space exploration. Next time I visit, I will stop in Hutchinson to tour the Cosmosphere. Thanks also for the heads-up on the Cosmosphere. I believe it's home to the Leaning Tower of Gemini-Titan II:

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May explain why when we pull the lever marked 'Democrat' out pops something closer to something else Octafish Feb 2014 #8
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bobthedrummer, you've been on to their treasonous gangster capers since Day One. Octafish Feb 2014 #15
The Cosmosphere space museum, in Hutchinson, KS, of all places, has been very honest about.......... LongTomH Feb 2014 #19
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The Cosmosphere is pretty awesome. AZCat Feb 2014 #86
We used to have the 'Michigan Space & Science Center'in Jackson... Octafish Feb 2014 #93
Perhaps 20,000 prisoners died making NAZI rockets. Octafish Feb 2014 #57
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Been saying this and trying to get others to see it for years. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #22
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''But nobody reads.'' -- Allen Dulles, Warren Commissioner, former head of CIA, fired by JFK Octafish Feb 2014 #26
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I own the book and will do as you suggest. I am currently reading "The God Delusion" rhett o rick Feb 2014 #67
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