I really can't believe some of what I've been reading here today.

[sabrina 1]

286. No, I cannot imagine it for a minute. Or women being raped, or children being sodomized by foreign

troops. I know a certain amnesia appears to have settled in, but the victims of these horrific abuses are still traumatized, the surviving loved ones, the maimed men, women and children, the rape victims, some of whom were convinced to speak about the horrors in order to try to get some justice, even THAT is refused to them for 'national security reasons'.

I will not forget either the dismissive response from regarding whether the sanctions were worth the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children when she answered 'yes'.

I see a lot of talk about privilege here. America's dismissive attitude to all the deaths we have caused is the ULTIMATE example of privilege and according the logic I've seen regarding that, not one American can claim they are not privileged, so long as this is a national attitude, we can kill and maim and rape and pillage at will, and then forget about it.

I want a record somewhere that not ALL Americans dismiss the deaths of innocents and that SOME of us WANTED the criminals to be held accountable, to provide just a small amount of justice for the millions of victims we have created.

Thanks polly for not choosing amnesia now that the other team is out of office. I remember worrying years ago that we might become immune to the horror of what we were learning about our glorious, patriotic wars and promised myself I would never allow that to happen.

I remember Dahr Jamail's photos of the dead children, the photos from Fallujah and the witness descriptions of that horrible demonstration of, what Bush called it after he stole the second election, his 'political capital' which he stated he was 'going to use'. He did, people died and we claimed to be outraged as we should have been.